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Old 08-18-09, 02:42 PM   #1
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Flying Pigeon?

Has anyone ridden / owned one of these?
I would like to get a dutch style bike for my wife, or rebuild her Sport, and I see these on ebay and wonder if it would be worth a try.
I wrench, so maintenance is not a problem.
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Old 08-18-09, 02:59 PM   #2
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They're a heavy, utilitarian Chinese bike. A friend of mine went to Shanghai years ago, I asked him to ship me one. He was told they don't ship the Flying Pigeons out of China, so he bought a Forever, another brand.

Its a heavy, utilitarian, piece o junk Chinese bike. But it only cost about 75 bucks and the shipping was about the same.

The Flying Pigeons I saw in Hong Kong were much better made, though I imagine the ride is about like the Schwinn you had as a kid, maybe worse.

Did I say they're heavy?
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You see new Flying Pigeons on eBay from time to time. Way overpriced.

Heavy, cumbersome, bad brakes. Heavy.

Cycle Sport magazine had one of their writers try to ride the Olympic road course on one but he couldn't make it up the hill.

Rebuild the Sport or buy something on eBay that'll be more fun than a FP.

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-PEUGEOT-...ht_3348wt_1167
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I had a Forever, which is almost exactly the same bike. They are pretty to look at, but alot of the parts are very cheap. They can be made serviceable with a few well chosen replacement parts. They really aren't all that much different than the Raleighs. If you could find one with the larger frame size, and put a three speed hub on it etc... you could probly make a fair bike out of it.
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Oh yeah, the brakes are really bad, REALLY bad! I think the idea of finding a lighter weight vintage bike like a peugeot, or Motobecane is far better.
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there is a better bike with the same style but its a bit pricey at 1k. I have it bookmarked in my home pc. I'll try to provide you with more info when i get home.
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If you can afford it, buy a Gazelle, Pashley, Batavus, Velorbis, Retrovelo, or one of the other brands that I have profiled here. These are high quality bicycles with good components. If you can't afford it, my recommendation would be to restore a nice Raleigh Lady's Sports.

Flying Pigeon is made of cheaper steel and fitted with worse components than its European equivalents. It is heavy, even compared to the Dutch bikes. Some consider it unsafe and unridable.

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I thought Dutch style and heavy were synonyms?

What is a Gazelle, Pashley or Batavus run? I realize I could probably research that but you seem to have price shopped recently.
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I thought Dutch style and heavy were synonyms?
Yes... So just imagine the fun of a bike that is heavier! That is Flying Pigeon.

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What is a Gazelle, Pashley or Batavus run? I realize I could probably research that but you seem to have price shopped recently.
Depends on the model. A "basic" (3 speed) Batavus is in the $700's , a Gazelle in the $900's, and Pashley about the same. Add more gears, upgraded components, and various degrees of Brooks accessorage, and prices go up. But the basic models are already downright luxurious compared to the Pigeons.
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not exactly cheap, but that is less than I expected.
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The pigeon is flying because even pigeons are not stupid enough to ride that bike.
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Veloria, I studied your blog on the budget options bikes, the KHS sounds like a good option. I see you found one for $350? That seems a great deal! I suppose I would have to call a dealer, but none list it on their websites.

Bear, kind of over the top?

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It's made for Chinese by Chinese. Which means it's that or nothing for certain segments of their population. It doesn't have to be good.
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Veloria, I studied your blog on the budget options bikes, the KHS sounds like a good option. I see you found one for $350? That seems a great deal! I suppose I would have to call a dealer, but none list it on their websites.
If you are looking for a less expensive Dutch-style ladies' bike, the one I think is the best deal is actually the Biria Classic. It has everything: lugged frame, full chaincase, dressguard, lights, rack, etc, etc) and costs $450.
http://www.biria.com/bicycles/cd/cd_ladies_19_black.jsp

The KHS Green would be my next recommendation, keeping in mind that it has fewer of these components. I see lots of people riding these around Boston, so they are pretty popular.

You would have to check with your local shops regarding prices. In the Boston area they are sold by Cambridge Bicycle.
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