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Old 08-18-09, 09:37 PM   #1
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Rendered Ebay Bike

Very odd - a bike that is obviously rendered, not photographed, on its ebay ad...


http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/...0,0,0&format=0

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=120450549952
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Old 08-18-09, 09:45 PM   #2
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Those do look weird, maybe it's just some poor photoshop work?
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Old 08-18-09, 09:45 PM   #3
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Poor and dishonest - trying to mislead buyers...
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Old 08-18-09, 09:54 PM   #4
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I don't think they're rendered... just that white to gray faded paint job.
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Old 08-18-09, 09:57 PM   #5
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I dont see what is so rendered.
Not only is the paint white to gray, the background is white and grey, which doesnt help the images, but i still think its real.
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Poor and dishonest - trying to mislead buyers...
Bicycle Classics? you've got to be kidding me, one of the older, and better supplier of C&V parts,
I'd trust Greg P (who runs the place) enough to buy items from him sight unseen, and I have
repeatedly in the past. You're not going to find a more reputable dealer of old items (mostly NOS)
anywhere.

that said the paint on that Chas Roberts frame is weird (and I like it) notice one chainstay is white,
the other grey?
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Old 08-19-09, 12:34 AM   #7
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the shadows sure do look weird, but I'd say its real
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Hard to photograph...

I have noticed that some bike colors do not photograph well. Silver and white are a b***h to get good detail on. And any change in the lighting results in a color change in the picture.

The pictures of the bike do look a bit odd but my guess is that the person who took the pictures is more into bikes that photography.
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The colors of the frame over-accentuate the shadows being cast on it, giving it its ghostly, sketchlike (especially the BB shot) appearance.

Take a look at how the inside of the rear triangle, the top and bottom of the down and top tubes, and the sides of the seat tube are in white, while the rest is grey. Consider how the lighting hits each shot, and what in the photo, had it been an all-grey frame, would have appeared lighter by virtue of sunlight (i.e., light grey or white) - the very areas of this frame which have already been painted white.

Also, note that the shot of the 531 decal (from the front) and those of the the Roberts logos do not give off this effect, for the lighting angle is either less pronounced, or from a different angle entirely.

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Just looks like overexposure and poor angles/lighting when taking photos is all.
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Looks OK to me!

Fade paint job and odd lighting make it look unusual.

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I can't imagine that was done in an effort to mislead. Okay, I can't imagine it was done deliberately by anyone other than a stoned teenager - And I have indeed seen such do same.

This just has to be a bad combination of camera, lighting and subject.

It sorta looks like the alien Chevy Nova from the greatest movie of all time, Repo Man.

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I had a Raleigh (sold as frameset only) that had a similar fade paint job, they referred to it as "shark gray fade" or something, and was 2 shades of gray: light and dark.
It really fooled the eye since the "shadow" of the dark gray paint wasn't where it should have been from the light source. I got more than one comment from someone who couldn't tell if his brain was in a feedback loop when he looked at my bike.
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Perils of auto exposure.
Never photograph anything against a white wall if the wall makes up almost all of the photo.
Never photograph anything against a black wall if the wall makes up almost all of the photo.

Here we have a white wall (and black floor in one picture).

Also, white (or very light grey) and black (or very dark grey) surfaces that are VERY smooth, or even glossy, are very hard to render photographically.

He just broke too many rules.

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I wonder if the shots were overexposed and they did a bit of editing to tone it down. Fork ends do seem to float over the pavement.

Nice paintjob, btw.
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I think he may have been using a powerful strobe flash and that the paint is slightly pearleascent, making the pics take on a bit of a glow.
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I had a Raleigh (sold as frameset only) that had a similar fade paint job, they referred to it as "shark gray fade" or something, and was 2 shades of gray: light and dark.
It really fooled the eye since the "shadow" of the dark gray paint wasn't where it should have been from the light source. I got more than one comment from someone who couldn't tell if his brain was in a feedback loop when he looked at my bike.

If that effect is from the paint scheme and it plays in real life the way it does in those photos then that is freeking awesome. I mean hugely awesome in a beautiful and slightly frightening way.
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