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Old 08-19-09, 11:51 AM   #1
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restoring a disgraced marinoni

Just picked this up of craigslist.. The poor schmuck who had it "painted it silver because it was pink"

He did a terrible job.. I'm hoping it's terrible enough to come right off if i use the right substance? acetone?

Any tips would be appreciated.. I can see the decals underneath and would love to restore it to the original paint job..

Also, any ideas on what year it is?

3ttt stem and bars
gipiemme crank, brakes, seatpost, BB, headset
campy shifters, derailleurs

http://colinbird.ca/silver_sprayed_marinoni

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Old 08-19-09, 11:57 AM   #2
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Ouch, was it the one posted on craigslist montreal? You could try furniture stripper but do a test on an hidded portion like under the bb shell. Sometimes it only remove the first layer of payint if you dont leave it for too long. If you're close to Montreal the best thing t do would be to just have it repainted at Marinoni , they are quite affordable.

ps. you have some nice track pedals on that thing
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Old 08-19-09, 12:16 PM   #3
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whoulda said silver dipped marinoni
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Just picked this up of craigslist.. The poor schmuck who had it "painted it silver because it was pink"

He did a terrible job.. I'm hoping it's terrible enough to come right off if i use the right substance? acetone?

Any tips would be appreciated.. I can see the decals underneath and would love to restore it to the original paint job..

Also, any ideas on what year it is?

3ttt stem and bars
gipiemme crank, brakes, seatpost, BB, headset
campy shifters, derailleurs

http://colinbird.ca/silver_sprayed_marinoni


Thanks!

Previous owner was not a real man. Real men can ride a pink bike without having their masculinity threatened.
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Old 08-19-09, 12:26 PM   #5
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I suspect you can get that silver stuff off with goof-off or a similar solvent. Be patient, it may take a while. And do it outside; there's no need to breathe the fumes.
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Old 08-19-09, 12:35 PM   #6
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yup, it's the one from craigslist montreal.. thanks for the tips

same stuff to remove the silver paint from the components?
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Old 08-19-09, 01:19 PM   #7
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He painted the components?? Get a rope, boys - thar be some hangin' to do...
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Old 08-19-09, 01:30 PM   #8
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well, i don't think he meant to paint the components.. sigh




oh man...

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Get the rope for sure! I just came back from a ride on my ,87 Marinoni Special. Beautiful bikes. I also have a '91 Marinoni track bike with a Gipiemme group on it. If you can get to see the serial the first number is the year in the decade in which it was made. In this case if it is a high number it is likely eighties if low than likely nineties. For sure I would try just mineral spirits (paint thinner) to start, even try some wd 40, before you get into using the heavy duty stuff. Usually it comes off the components quite readily.
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Looks like a rattle can paint job; I've successfully removed this type of paint with 3M Safe Stripper and it left the original frame paint intact. But it did remove any decals that weren't clear coated. You should start with the milder stuff like methanol, and if that doesn't work, go on to harsher stuff like acetone, 3M Safe Stripper.
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the decals should be under the clear coat.. right?
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If you use methanol - Doversol or wood alcohol - wear rubber-gloves and work outdoors. The vapors from that, and skin-absorption of the liquid, cause a gruesome form of poisoning: Low dose - terrible muscle and bone aches. Medium dose - Dizziness and blindness (may be permanent). High dose - Death.

Try to find another chemical to use that's less toxic.
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Did he paint the headset and brake calipers black also or are they anodized?

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anodized.. i think this paint job took about 10 minutes.. 15 at most

gonna take longer than that to fix, though!

thanks for the tips.

I'm going to try varsol, and then maybe the 3M safe stripper
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I agree with terrors, the paint should come off the components pretty easily. The frame will be harder, especially since the original paint may not be too solid. I think using something mild and testing your methods on an inconspicuous place first is a good idea!

As for the year, guesswork is fun and all, but the foolproof way to know is to send a request with the serial number to Marinoni (email on their website). They will tell you when it was made, and what tubing they used.

Regardless of the colour, Marinoni bikes ride really well. You'll love it!
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its gonna be a beauty! "Yo voy a Ti'" "YOU CAN DO IT!"
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That bent one isn't such a basket case - could be straightened quite quickly.

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I think Citrus-Strip is a step milder than the 3M stuff. I can barely look at that Campy headset with paint all over it.

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Out of curiosity, how did you and the seller get on when you made the transaction?

I would've felt like a Child Protective Service officer or a rescue agent from the ASPCA! "Sir! I need you to stay over there...DO NOT move towards the bike! It'll be in good hands from here on.."
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haha well, we were speaking french, which isn't my first language.. i was pretty polite

just made sure it had the M on the BB shell and got outta there
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The decals are over the clearcoat but they are available from Marinoni for around $10.
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IMHO, methyl alcohol is a pretty mild solvent, and also probably not strong enough to remove cured spray paint...it's the small amount of MEK they add to make it "denatured" that I would worry about. Goof-off (a solvent blend) and acetone are much more harsh solvents, but more likely to do the job. I would try those after you try the alcohol but before you use any of the "safer" strippers...just been my experience. And use gloves and good ventilation for any/all of it.
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As others suggested, start with something mild, then go up to something harsher if necessary. There's no point in using toxic chemicals if you don't really have to. The paint will come off the parts easily, but the frame and fork will be hard work I'd say.
The first digit in the four or five digit serial number, on the underside of the bottom bracket shell, will give you the year. A cursory glance reveals an '80s bike, so for instance, if the first number is "6" it will be a 1986.
It should come up alright I think, after much cursing at the silver spray. I'd get rid of the crappy Campy shifters and 980 derailleurs and put on something like Simplex Retrofrictions mated to Suntour Superbe Pro derailleurs. Oh geez, I'm probably starting a parts war here.
Also, put that stem down before it snaps off!

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