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Old 08-20-09, 10:50 PM   #1
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Nuovo Retro Electra Ticino

Well, I searched... and no one's mentioned this bike yet:


It's a new bike, but it's styled after (depending on your opinion) constructeur bikes of the '50's. It's being shown at the Eurobike show by Electra, the company known for "feet-forward" cruisers and such. There's apparently going to be a couple versions, but I can see:

TA-style 6-arm crank
randonneur-style handlebar support
hammered aluminum fenders
cantilever or centerpull brakes
high-flange cassette hubs
platform pedals with toe clips

Anybody want to comment? Are "constructeur" bikes the new fixies?

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http://bikeportland.org/2009/08/18/y...-ticino-bikes/
http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/200...o-forthcoming/
http://www.eurobike-show.com/eb/pres...1&sMode=detail

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Old 08-20-09, 11:04 PM   #2
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I'd say I really like it except...for that absolutely ugly Grant Peterson-esque frame. A nice horizontal top tube would be just the ticket.

But this is encouraging:
- high flange hubs are 8/9/10-speed cassette and will be available as aftermarket (also in flip-flop nutted F&R sets)
- Most of the other exclusive Electra parts will also be available aftermarket (cranks, stems, saddles, wheelsets, fenders, racks, handlebars, etc.)
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Old 08-20-09, 11:05 PM   #3
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I really really want high flange cassette hubs.
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An Electra Rene Herse/Alex Singer homage... its aimed at competing with Trek's new Belleville!
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That frame is hideous.

Why won't that pathetic useless sloping top tube idea die.....
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Compact frame for better standover height and comfort. Its a hybrid bicycle after all. That's the kind of construction used on bikes in that category today.
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I've also seen this one:



and some more pics of that first one:



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They've pilfered a lot of nice individual style elements (faux honjo fenders, sheriff star-esque hubs, rip-off cranks, clips, cranks, etc.), but, when thrown together, it just rings hollow. Maybe I'm just a crotchety middle age man, but the whole faux "retro" thing irks me a bit.

I do have to say that the mixte model isn't half bad looking, but they can keep the first one.
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Compact frame for better standover height and comfort. Its a hybrid bicycle after all. That's the kind of construction used on bikes in that category today.
But they're building a retro style bike not a modern comfort bike. If they want to build a modern comfort bike, go right ahead but skip the retro styling queues.
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I've also seen this one:

and some more pics of that first one:
Much better though more traditional diagonal tubes would be better still. Oh, and change those brake levers.
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I'd say I really like it except...for that absolutely ugly Grant Peterson-esque frame. A nice horizontal top tube would be just the ticket.
First thing I thought too. But that seems to be Electra's style these days.
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I installed inverse brake levers on my Peugeot porteur bike. It takes a little getting used to but they are intuitive and offer good grip. That's the style found on the high end Parisian porteur bikes of the 1940s and 50s. Hence all the conscious attention by Electra to pay tribute to the bikes made by Rene Herse and Alex Singer that are still highly sought after.
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I note that it also has Electra's very laid back seattube angle, based on the photos. That feature is direct from their cruiser frames. Probably need a straight or forward angled seatpost to get the knees over the pedal spindles.

Spare chainrings could be difficult too in the future if that crank does not stay in production.
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Its Electra's "flat foot" or crank forward technology. It works on the Townie and Amsterdam. I imagine
it would work equally well for the Ticino.
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Replacement parts can be gotten from Velo Orange. My guess is the owner loves this bike!
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It wouldn't be bad if it was built with a sensible horizontal top tube the way G*d intended.

Although those C-Record look-alike hubs are a nice touch...
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Why won't that pathetic useless sloping top tube idea die.....
Because it lets the maker offer 3 frame sizes instead of 6...
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S, M, L. For most people it will be M.
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Parts haven.

Strip it, throw away the frame, and mount the parts on a different frameset.

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Because it lets the maker offer 3 frame sizes instead of 6...
Many bikes back in the 60's and 70's came in 21", 23", and 25" - S, M, & L. The 1-2cm stuff was more of an 80's thing I think, or super fancy high end bikes.
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That frame is hideous.

Why won't that pathetic useless sloping top tube idea die.....
oh c'mon. Tell us how you really feel.

The rest of the bike is interesting, but that top tube = fail to me too.

oh. and that fork. That ruins everything.
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oh. and that fork. That ruins everything.
I'm not ready to dismiss the fork. That could possibly work quite well with a traditional French touring frame.

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oh c'mon. Tell us how you really feel.

The rest of the bike is interesting, but that top tube = fail to me too.

oh. and that fork. That ruins everything.

I try not to pull any punches.

Kurt might be my long lost cousin.
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I prefer this one.
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I bet you guys all got mad when TV switched to color, too



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