Nuovo Retro Electra Ticino
08-20-09, 10:50 PM
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Nuovo Retro Electra Ticino
Well, I searched... and no one's mentioned this bike yet:
It's a new bike, but it's styled after (depending on your opinion) constructeur bikes of the '50's. It's being shown at the Eurobike show by Electra, the company known for "feet-forward" cruisers and such. There's apparently going to be a couple versions, but I can see:
TA-style 6-arm crank
randonneur-style handlebar support
hammered aluminum fenders
cantilever or centerpull brakes
high-flange cassette hubs
platform pedals with toe clips
Anybody want to comment? Are "constructeur" bikes the new fixies?
More info:
https://bikeportland.org/2009/08/18/y...-ticino-bikes/
https://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/200...o-forthcoming/
https://www.eurobike-show.com/eb/pres...1&sMode=detail
More photos:
It's a new bike, but it's styled after (depending on your opinion) constructeur bikes of the '50's. It's being shown at the Eurobike show by Electra, the company known for "feet-forward" cruisers and such. There's apparently going to be a couple versions, but I can see:
TA-style 6-arm crank
randonneur-style handlebar support
hammered aluminum fenders
cantilever or centerpull brakes
high-flange cassette hubs
platform pedals with toe clips
Anybody want to comment? Are "constructeur" bikes the new fixies?
More info:
https://bikeportland.org/2009/08/18/y...-ticino-bikes/
https://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/200...o-forthcoming/
https://www.eurobike-show.com/eb/pres...1&sMode=detail
More photos:
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08-20-09, 11:04 PM
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I'd say I really like it except...for that absolutely ugly Grant Peterson-esque frame. A nice horizontal top tube would be just the ticket.
But this is encouraging:
- high flange hubs are 8/9/10-speed cassette and will be available as aftermarket (also in flip-flop nutted F&R sets)
- Most of the other exclusive Electra parts will also be available aftermarket (cranks, stems, saddles, wheelsets, fenders, racks, handlebars, etc.)
-Chris from Electra
But this is encouraging:
- high flange hubs are 8/9/10-speed cassette and will be available as aftermarket (also in flip-flop nutted F&R sets)
- Most of the other exclusive Electra parts will also be available aftermarket (cranks, stems, saddles, wheelsets, fenders, racks, handlebars, etc.)
-Chris from Electra
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08-21-09, 05:50 AM
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That frame is hideous.
Why won't that pathetic useless sloping top tube idea die.....
Why won't that pathetic useless sloping top tube idea die.....
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08-21-09, 03:50 PM
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Compact frame for better standover height and comfort. Its a hybrid bicycle after all. That's the kind of construction used on bikes in that category today.
08-21-09, 04:03 PM
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I've also seen this one:
and some more pics of that first one:
and some more pics of that first one:
08-21-09, 04:12 PM
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They've pilfered a lot of nice individual style elements (faux honjo fenders, sheriff star-esque hubs, rip-off cranks, clips, cranks, etc.), but, when thrown together, it just rings hollow. Maybe I'm just a crotchety middle age man, but the whole faux "retro" thing irks me a bit.
I do have to say that the mixte model isn't half bad looking, but they can keep the first one.
I do have to say that the mixte model isn't half bad looking, but they can keep the first one.
08-21-09, 04:53 PM
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But they're building a retro style bike not a modern comfort bike. If they want to build a modern comfort bike, go right ahead but skip the retro styling queues.
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08-21-09, 04:57 PM
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Much better though more traditional diagonal tubes would be better still. Oh, and change those brake levers.
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08-22-09, 02:21 PM
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I installed inverse brake levers on my Peugeot porteur bike. It takes a little getting used to but they are intuitive and offer good grip. That's the style found on the high end Parisian porteur bikes of the 1940s and 50s. Hence all the conscious attention by Electra to pay tribute to the bikes made by Rene Herse and Alex Singer that are still highly sought after.
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I note that it also has Electra's very laid back seattube angle, based on the photos. That feature is direct from their cruiser frames. Probably need a straight or forward angled seatpost to get the knees over the pedal spindles.
Spare chainrings could be difficult too in the future if that crank does not stay in production.
Spare chainrings could be difficult too in the future if that crank does not stay in production.
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Its Electra's "flat foot" or crank forward technology. It works on the Townie and Amsterdam. I imagine
it would work equally well for the Ticino.
it would work equally well for the Ticino.
08-22-09, 06:58 PM
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It wouldn't be bad if it was built with a sensible horizontal top tube the way G*d intended.
Although those C-Record look-alike hubs are a nice touch...
Although those C-Record look-alike hubs are a nice touch...
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Parts haven.
Strip it, throw away the frame, and mount the parts on a different frameset.
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Strip it, throw away the frame, and mount the parts on a different frameset.
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Many bikes back in the 60's and 70's came in 21", 23", and 25" - S, M, & L. The 1-2cm stuff was more of an 80's thing I think, or super fancy high end bikes.
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The rest of the bike is interesting, but that top tube = fail to me too.
oh. and that fork. That ruins everything.
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I try not to pull any punches.
Kurt might be my long lost cousin.
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I prefer this one.
https://beauty.nagog.smasher.net:81/b...e52-whole2.jpg
https://beauty.nagog.smasher.net:81/b...e52-whole2.jpg