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Old 08-21-09, 06:27 PM   #1
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New member and new (old) U0-8

Hello everybody!

I just want to say hello. I'm kind of new to the c&v world. In fact, I'm new to the cycling world as well!

To make a long story short, I got interested in cycling by the Tour de France. As I'm a student (read: I don't have much money), I said to myself, why not to get an old ten speeds?

I had good reasons for that: I wanted to get back in shape, I needed a light bike to climb the stairs to my appartment, and I figured I could get a decent bike for not much.

Learning that I was looking for an old Peugeot (this was the only bikes I'd know then--a month and a half ago), my step father told me he had an old Peugeot that he gave to a friend which he knew never really used it. So the bike went back and now it belongs to me! It cost.......0$!

I'm really happy to have it and I say have it, cause I can't ride it. It needed a really good cleaning, new tires and a rear brake. The bikes is in the process of being cleaned right now and I need to order parts for it. The nice thing about it is that, apart form the rear break, the bike is in original condition and fearly ok. Even the tires date from 1975! (I'm figured with my stepfather the bike was bought around 1976 so it is wether a 75 or 76)

Now I just need to figure how to post pics!

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Voilą!

Sorry for the pic quality tough!

I forgot to say that the left shifter is broken and the jockey pulley (is that the tight term?) is broken as well. The top part of the shifters is plastic and I'm not too crazy about the simplex stuff on the bike.

I'm now waiting for red cork tape and tektro aero brake levers. I still need to order tubes and tire in 27x1 1/4 and brake and shifter cables ( I was thinking red but the store I went to can only get the jagwire stuff which is quite expensive). And I dont know if I'm gonna change the saddle cause it looks...well.....not really confortable.

I'm not triyng to built this bike as an original so... whatever works! I got a new rear Mafac brake (well not knew but used but I got it for 8 bucks) and shimano friction shifters which are way nicer than the simplex one (for 6 bucks).
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Welcome to C&V. A nice old Peugeot! It does indeed look complete even right down to the MAFAC half hoods and the lever covers. Put some MAFAC racer brakes on there and you're off and riding. Despite not being very high up the food chain the old UO-8 was a nice riding bike and it's only real achilles heel are the steel rims. But they are sturdy if nothing else. Fortunately parts to keep that old girl original and rolling are plentiful and cheap so you should enjoy many miles of riding for years to come.
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Welcome Mojoride and congrats on the Peugeot. From the picture you posted, it looks like you found a bike if fairly good condition.

As far as tires and tubes, check out Niagara Cycle at: http://www.niagaracycle.com/index.php. Their prices are very hard to beat, but you should also check pricing at your local bike shop.

I have a couple of early 70's Peugeots as well, a UO-08 and a UO-18 Mixte, but neither one is in the shape yours is in. They'll need quite a bit of work to get them back to the way they should be.

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I am having trouble pinning down a model year from the decals, which differ from the more common 1970-1974 scheme. The downtube shifters were typical on earlier UO-8s, before they tried those wretched stem mounts. Perhaps the mid-1970s brought a return to sanity. Sometime later in the 1970s, they switched to aluminum cranks, so I am guessing 1975 vintage.
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talking about tires and tubes, I've read that manufacturers write mesurements that do not necessarily correspond to the real tire width. How can I know if I'll be alright?.

And do you have recommendations about what kind of tire to get. I want to use my bike for sport touring and maybe a bit of commuting.

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^Cool bike. Welcome to C&V
How about these tires?
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Also, try that saddle out before you decide it's not comfortable. After some time, you might like it. Or you can trade it to me!
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talking about tires and tubes, I've read that manufacturers write mesurements that do not necessarily correspond to the real tire width. How can I know if I'll be alright?.

And do you have recommendations about what kind of tire to get. I want to use my bike for sport touring and maybe a bit of commuting.

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Welcome to Bike Forums! Nice Peugeot UO8! I would have said 1976, but I believe there was a transition from older to newer decals around 1975 to 1976, and John is very knowledgeable. I use Continental Ultra Sport 27x1-1/4 tires on my ~1975 UE18, and would recommend these. They run about $20 per tire. You will find a fair amount information on the UO8 on my website.
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The 1975 paint/decal scheme was identical to the '74 except that the headbadge was plastic instead of a decal. The decal scheme of the OP's bike first appeared in 1976 so I'm pretty sure it's a '76 model. I'm not sure when they went to stem mount shifters - my '74 has downtube shifters as the catalog indicates. The '77 catalog shows stem shifters and a different rear derailleur. The UO-8 has a lot of tire clearance so wouldn't worry too much about tires being the exact size. Any 27x1 1/4 tire will work fine. I like Panaracer Pasela TGs.
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I just removed the chain wheels and now the bike is down to the frame but the crank arms are still on.The cups from the headset seems be stock in the head tube. I also learned that bearings can roll far away on a floor!

There's a kind of seal that's broken. It was in the lower cup I think...

I also don't know if I should replace the bearings...

Anyabody knows where I can get info on Peugeot headsets?

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I figured I would post some before and after of the front brake to show that Mafac looks cool!

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and here are the new shifters after cleaning 'em. Shimano but I don't know what model...

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I just removed the chain wheels and now the bike is down to the frame but the crank arms are still on.The cups from the headset seems be stock in the head tube. I also learned that bearings can roll far away on a floor!

There's a kind of seal that's broken. It was in the lower cup I think...

I also don't know if I should replace the bearings...

Anyabody knows where I can get info on Peugeot headsets?
Yes, bearings do roll away on the floor. I put all of my old ones in a plastic cup as I was taking them out, intending to throw them away when done, but I accidentally kicked the cup over. Now everytime I go in the garage I get ball bearings stuck in the treads of my shoes

The headset cups don't just pop out of the head tube, you need a special tool (or make a homemade one). But there is rarely a reason to remove them unless they are totally shot or you are doing a repaint. Typically unless there is pitting in the cups, just put fresh bearings and grease and button it back up. Not sure what you mean by a seal. The lower cup usually has a race on the fork, a cup on the bottom of the head tube and bearings inbetween. I don't remember if it uses a cage for the bearing but it might. Some newer headsets have seals - could it have been replaced?

I've heard that the rule of thumb for bearing is to take them to the nearest lake or stream and throw them in - if they float then they are good to be reused
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I figured I would post some before and after of the front brake to show that Mafac looks cool!

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and here are the new shifters after cleaning 'em. Shimano but I don't know what model...

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Those don't look like the ones in the picture of the bike. Did you check that they will fit. I believe the frame has a unique single right side shifter boss that only fits Simplex shifters.
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Those don't look like the ones in the picture of the bike. Did you check that they will fit. I believe the frame has a unique single right side shifter boss that only fits Simplex shifters.
+1 U08 has an odd/unique one sided shifter boss. I ended up finding a replacement set of Simplex levers on ebay.


+ Headset removal takes a special tool, and you probably do not need to remove it anyway.
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Don't get rid of that saddle before you check it out completely. It looks like a Brooks which is a very pricey saddle. Check out Ebay and see what I mean. Even if you don't like it, you could sell it ala Ebay and make up some of the refurbishing costs!!
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thanks guy for the info,

I don't want to remove the headset cups, I was just wondering. I think I will just change the bearings and put fresh grease.

The saddle is defineatly not a brooks. I have to check it was a stock low end leather saddle that came eith the bikes then.

For the shifters, yes there is a boss on the right. I know it doesn't fit. But I'll just clamp the shimano shifters just up from it for now. They cost 6 bucks I htink and they look way better than the simplex one. It might be as it might not be a temporary solution but I want the bike to be functionnal soon.
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I'm trying to remove the patina on the lower chrome part of the fork with aluminium foil. It's really going slowly...

Does anybody know an easier way to do this?
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I'm trying to remove the patina on the lower chrome part of the fork with aluminium foil. It's really going slowly...

Does anybody know an easier way to do this?
Search the forum for the use of Oxalic acid; it works wonders in removing rust from painted and chromed steel parts. Basically mix 2 to 3 tablespons of the powder to a gallon of water and soak the parts. The acid eliminates the rust. You then need to place the parts in a neutralizing bath of baking soda and water.
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+1 Get to know oxalic.

Anything abrasive will remove the feeble layer of chrome on those forks. Ask me now I know...

One great thing about U08s is that there are so many of them out there, just about anything you want to try has been done many times before. So a little searching and you will find the U08 transformed into many forms.

I still have two in the workshop in pieces right now. They both need to go through the oxalic bath before I do anything else to them. And they have a couple of bikes ahead of them in line.

Stock saddle on the U08 was an AGDA. Looked a lot like a Brooks, from a distance.... Not much value there. But looks good on the bike.

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submerge anything that is supposed to be chrome/polished but rusted in white vinegar with baking soda for 24 hours.

It works!

I have to post pics of a REALLY rusty Simplex skewer I recovered by the method mentioned above. Took it out and just had to wipe it down and its bling-blingin'
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Upgrade the cranks/bottom bracket and that will save several pounds. Pedals too.
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Ok I'll try one of those methods. But I'm a bit afraid that the acid will remove the paint of the fork as well...

The strange thing is, I've used aluminium foil on other parts and it works quite well. But on the chrome part of the fork, I tought it'd be a simple thing to do but instead, it started to remove a kind of patina that would have otherwise not been noticed. As if chrome was hidden behind...chrome.

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I know it's a good thing to do and I plan to do it maybe next spring but this means that I need to chang the bb (spindle and cups) or just the cups and find a suitable crank set... Which look like difficult to find.
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Can anybody also recommend me brake/shifter cable and housing?

I wanted to go with red housing. I know jagwire is pretty good but there is so much options when you like on different websites. Is there kits that include all the pieces I need?

I've never done that before...
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