balindamood

This followed me home today. The frame is unknown chromed tubing (seatpost is 26.6-26.8). The stem is 3T and Carmielli (or whatever it is) bars. The wheels are Campy Tippo with '73 date codes. The Suntour bar-cons and V front derailuer have early '74 date codes. I do not know what the rear derailuer is. The brakes are kinda Shimpagnolo's. The front one and the levers are fiest generation Dura Ace without any date codes that I can discern. The rear one has Dura Ace arms on a Campagnolo mounting bolt. The cranks are Stronglight, but appear to be "garage-tapped" english threads with the 80's Superbe track pedals attached. I cannot yet tell what the BB is. The headset is stronglight also, but appears to be more '80's than '70's. The seat post and saddle are likely original, but I am not sure about the paint.

So, is this anything?

Pictures:

mkeller234

The angle of the bike against the fence and siding is makes for a trippy photo. It gives the illusion of a bend in the frame but I am guessing there is not.

Sixty Fiver

In the first picture the head tube and frame look bent... mebbe it is just an unintended effect.

Otis

That does look seriously bent in the full bike photo. Hope it's just the photo (guessing it is or the stem would not be angled up like that).

Anyway looks like a better model Bottecchia. If straight, I would put some effort into that one.

balindamood

Not bent, just photo.

BOBSONATOR

i would clean that baby up! go go go!

JohnDThompson 

That's one of the higher-end frames. Well worth cleaning up and keeping! It does look like most of the original parts have been replaced, but the replacements are decent quality so unless you're considering a restoration I'd just clean it up and ride it the way it is.

T-Mar

Appears to be a heavily modified, early to mid-1970's, Bottecchia Giro d'Italia or Professional. Both used the same frame and are distinguished by the Campagnolo dropouts. The frame is Columbus SL. Carnielli was the manufacturer of Bottecchia.

The models diffdered in the components and this has traits of both. The stem and post and are typical of the Professional, while the hubs are typical of the Giro. I would lean towards the former, except the post is undersize. I would have expected, 27.0-27,2mm. The saddle just looks a little too modern and downscale for a Professional, while the Giro typically was equipped with a riveted, leather saddle.

Regardless, both models came with Nuovo Record derailleurs and Universal 61 brakesets. The Professional would have used Campagnolo Record hubs, headset, pedals and crankset.

Kommisar89

It's a nice frame. I can't imagine any reason to downgrade the components on a Professional model like that so I'd guess it's a Giro d'Italia or second generation Gran Turismo. The only original parts on there that I can see are the handlebars, and the Nuovo Tip hubs. Seatpost is probably the wrong size. The original would have been a steel stick in 27.2mm.

Original spec for '73 - '74 Giro d'Italia would be the following:
Crank: Nervar Star
Hubs: Campagnolo Nuovo Tipo
Rims: Fiamme tubular
Brakes: Universal center-pull
Seatpost: steel stick, 27.2mm in that frame size
Saddle: tensioned leather
Derailleurs: Valentino Extra (they'd stopped using Record by then)
Headset: Stronglight (but not that one that's on there now which looks newer)
Stem and handlebars: Carnielli

nikkorod

I had one like this earlier this year. It was totally stock and about in the same condition. I cleaned mine up and sold it for $400. I paid $125 for it plus the elbow grease to get it clean. Looks like you're missing the Universal brakes. IMHO the LeTour Der. (Shimano Crane GS) is an upgrade from the Campy Valentino. Nice bar end shifters. The chrome cleaned up pretty good on mine. Good luck with it. I would have kept mine, but it was a 63 cm.

delicious

for what it's worth, my professional came with a 27.0 post.

Kommisar89

What size frame? I've seen 25" frames in 27.0mm.

delicious

a 58. it's possible that it was switched out at some point - i haven't ever taken calipers to the seat tube. this is on a ~72 professional

Kommisar89

Odd...they do seem to be inconsistant. My '73 is 27.2mm.

balindamood

The frame is a 60cm (a stretch for me). The seatpost in it is 26.6 or 26.8, but seems a hair too sall. I'll see if a 27.0 fits.

balindamood

After reforming the smushed seat lug from the binder bolt, it is either a 27.0 or 27.2 seat piller.

Kommisar89

That makes more sense. I would bet if you had the tools to insure the tube is perfectly round and smooth inside it would end up being 27.2mm.