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Old 10-02-09, 08:53 PM   #1
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Pashley Clubman - The 3 Speed Fixed Gear Club Bike Reborn!




In the late 1940s and 50s, cyclists would have club bikes equipped with the rare Sturmey Archer 3 speed ASC fixed gear hub. Next year, the club bike is being brought back by Pashley as the Clubman - equipped with what else? A Sturmey Archer 3 speed S3X fixed gear hub!
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With a derailer hanger? The hipsters won't like that

Jokes aside, it's extremely tasteful, and the geometry looks closer to traditional road then anything else. Provided that hanger remains post-prototype, I dare say this thing might have an additional future as a geared machine.

Crankset looks gorgeous.

EDIT: I saw larger photos below. Without a doubt the most tasteful mainstream frameset I've seen for 2009:
http://www.bikerumor.com/2009/09/24/...xie-prototype/

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A beautiful and classic looking machine for sure...
I'm a fan of geared road bikes too, but 3 speeds used to be a lot when I was a kid, and I imagine it still gets you where you want to go.
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Funny because it's almost identical in design to my '08 Masi Speciale Commuter, sans the 3 spped hub. Which will probably change once that hub hits the market. That Pashley will make for a sweet Audax bike.
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Funny because it's almost identical in design to my '08 Masi Speciale Commuter, sans the 3 spped hub.
Bad comparison. Completely different geometries + tig vs. lugged.

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Bad comparison. Completely different geometries + tig vs. lugged.

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So it may not be lugged, but it's the same steel, and I doubt there is much of a difference in geometries, but the basics are there. Long wheelbase for wide tires and fenders. A fast, multipurpose bike designed to be geared or not. And when the Pashley hits the market, there's a good chance it will have at least a front brake.
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You know, I'm going to say that I actually really admire and have been ogling Pashley's Roadster 26 Soviergn.

But all their bikes seem damn expensive for what they are, maybe even overpriced.

Or maybe it's just the currency exchange rate.

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Old 10-03-09, 02:39 AM   #8
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that is one pretty machine, i want one.
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that's a nice looking bike but for $1895 it better come with brakes. and probably a second bike.
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You know, I'm going to say that I actually really admire and have been ogling Pashley's Roadster 26 Soviergn.

But all their bikes seem damn expensive for what they are, maybe even overpriced.

Or maybe it's just the currency exchange rate.

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As well as the fact the Pashleys are still being built in England and not some low wage country. I don't know if they are building frames in house or outsourcing them. If they are building in house that price isn't bad at all. Take a look at any semi-custom built bike made in the US and the price is right up there with the Pashley.

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$1900, and it has a strap-on, sheet metal cable stop on the downtube? That's just tacky.

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A beautiful thing, no question. Obvious quality and understated traditional style. The pulley above the BB is interesting.

Wondering what the tariff would be for a custom builder to approximate this bike? My devious mind tells me the difference in cost may not be that great, but my conscience reminds me that the result (wonderful as it would be) still wouldn't be a Pashley.
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It is nice. BUt as Cudak has pointed out, why have a deraileur hanger on their? It makes the whole bike look like just another conversion. Throw on some track ends, fenders and maybe a headlight and we got ourselves a winner. I especially like the look of the crankset, Very classy.
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$1900, and it has a strap-on, sheet metal cable stop on the downtube? That's just tacky.

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Not tacky, old school.
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Just out of curiosity: If I could find a factory built English 'clubman' style bike with an ASC hub, 531DB etc, in like new condition, would it be worth $1895?

I appreciate the appeal of the bike, at least in general. Can't say I like that crankset, though.
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It is nice. BUt as Cudak has pointed out, why have a deraileur hanger on their? It makes the whole bike look like just another conversion. Throw on some track ends, fenders and maybe a headlight and we got ourselves a winner.
Tell you the truth, I'm seeing that frameset completely differently: Remove the existing wheelset and bars, and throw a NR group on it. That derailer hanger is just asking for a nice Campag RD to be hung on it.

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Its a FG bike with classic "clubman" geometry. And we've discussed vintage models on here in the past.
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The Pashley Clubman is handbuilt with the venerable tried and true Reynolds 531 moly-manganese tubing. All double-butted. A sweet ride, I'd imagine!
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In the 40's and 50's many club bikes had horizontal dropouts which allowed manufacturers the ability to fit them with a variety of drives so that set up is authentic while the derailer hangar is just practical.

My 1955 Lenton could have been ordered as a three speed or as a fixed gear model... it would be very nice if it was fitted with an S3X (an ASC would be better) but in wanting to keep the bike original I will build up an S3X wheel for another one of my fixed gear bikes.

Pashley makes a beautiful bicycle and they warrant a higher price tag.
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That they do - and this is built as a tribute to the club bikes of that era. I imagine it can be outfitted'
with a variety of drives. You want a classic club road bike instead of a FG? No problem.

Pashley makes bikes with timeless looks and detailed lugs unlike the TIGed weld bikes on the market today. That is more than enough reason to acquire one.
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As for the pulley and cable stops on the prototype shown Pashley appears to have used standard Sturmey Archer shifting cable installation accessories such as SA has been making practically forever. Very practical even if ugly as sin.

The top stop could be replaced with the CNCd aluminum one from Rivendell.
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Wonder what the rear spacing might be? It does inspire me to build my prewar Schwinn in a similar fashion. Only, I'll stick with a more traditional AW or FW hub.
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Its only a prototype and the production model - if it goes into production, ought to address the aspect of it you take issue with. Very classic frame!
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Wonder what the rear spacing might be?
That's a good question. If it will be sold with the SA hub, then probably 120, as SA says that the hub will be 120, but maybe a second @ 130. My concern would be if the 130 is just the 120 with a longer axel, which would make for a crappy chain line on some frames. Still, Pashley has been doing some cool stuff so I think this bike makes a lot of sense for them. I think a bit of refinement and a front brake and I'd consider it. It looks like a lot fun.
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I don't know if they are building frames in house or outsourcing them.
All Pashleys are built in their Stratford-upon-Avon factory, beside the Stratford Canal.
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