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Old 10-24-09, 07:12 PM   #1
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SS Butchers on Ebait

I am beginning to see more and more of these butchered bikes show up on Ebait. Obviously if they bring nothing perhaps this practice will be discouraged by those who think this is a good way to make a buck. Take a nice bike and ruin it, hack the hanger off from it, I am not giving diddly for it.
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and what's the deal with airplane food?
amirite?
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I am beginning to see more and more of these butchered bikes show up on Ebait.
I suspect that you are talking about fixie/ss conversions by "butchered"... am I correct?

Blame the late Sheldon Brown for a lot of that. I do get the benefits of using a single speed bike, but one thing that I do not get (and for some reason it is not mentioned in many places and it is so darn obviously logical) is the fact that every one who has a bike with several gear he/she can ride it single speed, if he/she chooses to do so and if they want to ride it like a fixie (i.e. no coasting, they can do that, too.) Just lack of education out there

Now, if you refer to the practice of breaking a bike down to its single components and selling it, that's a different story and a lot of that has to do with supply and demand (and the cost of mailing full bikes). A lot of people who are restoring their own vintage bikes are looking for components. Unless someone is willing to disassemble a bike and sell the components separately, there would not be a source of vintage components....
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I am talking about taking a Pinarello or Olmo or Cioc or other fine bicycle and hack sawing the hanger from it and then converting it to single speed, ss, and then trying to flip it on Ebay or CL. I am seeing more and more such bikes, usually hack jobs. if it does not bother you, so be it, I am not participating in that, if I want a single speed I will get a frame intended for it, noit saw the hanger from my Pinarello and then take the brakes off.
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and what's the deal with airplane food?
amirite?
What is with wing walking?
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...fine bicycle and hack sawing the hanger from it and then converting it to single speed

No reason to hack the hanger off for a single speed or a fixie...
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ok... I hear you

(and I so agree with you on that part)

but... I have not seen any SL or SLX based bikes out there as SS/fixed. (or 753/853 if that matters).

Most I've seen are lesser steel frames lugged to a bunch of modern components.

I can live with that
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Or taking a beautiful early 80s Ciocc and spreading it to 130mm.
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Gosh, it must have been at least a couple of weeks since we had an identical handwringing thread. My advice: Go to the Wedgie Sticky and work it out.
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Gosh, it must have been at least a couple of weeks since we had an identical handwringing thread. My advice: Go to the Wedgie Sticky and work it out.
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Old 10-25-09, 02:03 PM   #11
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If God had not intended man to have fixie/ss, He would not have issued us hacksaws.
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actually I have been sawing for days trying to get the hanger off this old grey 10speed I found it just says merlin on the side.
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I am talking about taking a Pinarello or Olmo or Cioc or other fine bicycle and hack sawing the hanger from it and then converting it to single speed, ss, and then trying to flip it on Ebay or CL. I am seeing more and more such bikes, usually hack jobs. if it does not bother you, so be it, I am not participating in that, if I want a single speed I will get a frame intended for it, noit saw the hanger from my Pinarello and then take the brakes off.
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actually I have been sawing for days trying to get the hanger off this old grey 10speed I found it just says merlin on the side.
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Or taking a beautiful early 80s Ciocc and spreading it to 130mm.
I'm sure those frame nearly break in half after having their rear dropouts moved 2mm.
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I didn't like all the frilly stuff on this hetchins, so I've been at it with a dremel. about 40 more hours and I'll have standard lugs on this thing.
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Then you'll love where my grinding got a little too enthusiastic on this one

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"I didn't like all the frilly stuff on this hetchins, so I've been at it with a dremel. about 40 more hours and I'll have standard lugs on this thing."

I found the tough part with these bikes is getting the stays straightened out.
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It may break our hearts sometimes, but there isn't any law against butchering bikeframes. Maybe we should petition for the introduction of a 'classified frame' certificate (as an analogy with classified buildings)
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Are you guys trying to cut into my dropout replacement business?
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I don't know, but I get the feeling the fixie craze has revitalized the whole biking sport, and for every frame that gets a haircut, a dozen more nice old bikes are being dug out of deep storage and wiped off and riden as they were designed.
My proof is the English roadster.
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The SS/FG forum does not condone butchering nice bikes; they usually tell someone with a really nice road frame to put gears on it.

The general advice is to not butcher any frame, in case it needs to be sold later.

There are so many good steel SS/FG frames on the market now it is not a smart move economically to butcher/hack/drew a nice old frame.

Indeed, the SS/FG craze has definitely brought in a lot more new riders. The utility/porteur bike is now coming into vogue once again. The Gary Fisher Simple City is a good example.
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actually I have been sawing for days trying to get the hanger off this old grey 10speed I found it just says merlin on the side.
Try a plasma cutter. They're much quicker.
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No reason to hack the hanger off for a single speed or a fixie...
What would you know, you've still got brakes.
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Exactly - dork. Those bars are about a foot too wide as well. Dweeb.
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