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Old 10-26-09, 10:34 PM   #1
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Stem Length on 23" Men's Raleigh Sports

How long is the stem on a 23" Men's Raleigh Sports? At the bike coop Saturday, I was told I could pull it out "until I saw a line," but my wife's Lady's 21" had about a 5" stem, and it did not have a line on it. Are the Men's and Lady's the same? I tugged on mine, but could not get it out. I don't see a line, but I doubt if this stem has one. I have it in good spot, but if it's only 5", I only have about 1 1/2" in the head tube. I don't want the handlebars to come off when I'm riding.

Anybody know? No, I didn't take a picture, but it's up maybe 1/2" from what's in this picture:

I raised the seat a bit, so I'd like the handlebars up a bit, too.

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Old 10-26-09, 10:41 PM   #2
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I have the 23" in the Raleigh Superbe and even though it a size too large for me, its worked OK. I was able to raise the stem a few inches. Never raise the stem past the minimum insertion mark. If its still too low, get a taller stem.
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No line on the Raleigh stems. Raleigh used to suggest no less then 2" inserted in the frame.

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The extended length is consistant with just about all quill stems. Pictures not needed.
Having had Asian and European bikes as well as TTT, Cin., Niito, SR all stems have minimal range. Bikes weather they be tourers or road race geometry have always been designed with having the bars equal, actually an inch or lower than the seat.
Unrealistic for many off us. This approach to fitting, this theme prevailed for many years. As we've "gottten wise" and as the old, not so practical ways have been reconsidered over the past few years, most of the riding public that prefers a more upright possition buys bikes built in a shape providing a higher front than old designs had. Riders don't stop riding as they age as much as they used to.

If your stem(s) meas. 5.5 inches tall (probably do) you would be better off by using a Hi-Rise. Many are only 5.5" with an upswept angle. Your bike already has such an angle so a 7 or 8" is in order. One and a half or so inches gain of effective height is alot. You will appreciate the difference. www.universlcycles.com click the search box type Kalloy and the stems will come-up, go to "Riser Quill", you'll see 'em. Item #24481-56561 . Note they've black ones too. The other meas. is reach which is not important in your case.

Having done this improvement a number of times has rendered practically unrideable bikes enjoyable for myself and others. English bikes use standard 1" (25.4) insertion size. It fits "loose" but that wedge locks the whole affair in place when it's drawn-up by the bolt as you know.
Again, your bike, all bikes have very little adjustability (not enough) in stem height.
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No line on the Raleigh stems. Raleigh used to suggest no less then 2" inserted in the frame.

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Yup...my experience too!. I have an extended length stem that I got from somewhere that is similar to the Raleigh stem. It is cheap Chinese knock off, but is a good 10" long. I believe they are available from J&B Importers through the Pyramid line.

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Yup...my experience too!. I have an extended length stem that I got from somewhere that is similar to the Raleigh stem. It is cheap Chinese knock off, but is a good 10" long. I believe they are available from J&B Importers through the Pyramid line.
They are good copies of the Raleigh posts, but beware of the clamp diameter - Raleigh used a 15/16" clamp (23.8) as opposed to the 1" clamp diameter that most steel bars utilize today, forcing you into replacing the bar as well.

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P.S.: Here's a tip for those who are OK with the height, but need a longer stem (and want the 15/16" clamp): Get the stem (Titan-made, I believe) off a Raleigh Sprite. They're about 80/90mm long.
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I wish I could have pulled the stem all the way out, but I fought with it for about half an hour and lost patience last night. It was loose, I could move it up and down a bit (yes, I took the basket off), but I couldn't raise much past the high point I reached.

I put it back down 1/2" this morning before I rode to work. One of these days I'll get it out and know for sure.
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