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Old 11-07-09, 03:29 AM   #1
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DIY powdercoating?

I was talking to a chap the other day who said he'd heard you could get cheap(ish) DIY powdercoating kits. I did a quick google but couldn;t really find anything.
Anyone know if this is true, and if so, do you need an oven or can you heat treat it with a torch?
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Old 11-07-09, 04:33 AM   #2
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http://www.eastwood.com/hotcoat-powder-coating.html
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Old 11-07-09, 08:03 AM   #3
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Harbor Freight also sells DIY powder coating kits; approximate cost is $70.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=94244

Curing of the powder can be done in conventional ovens, toaster ovens and heat lamps, but you need to get to about 400 degrees. I wouldn't recommend a torch.
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It actually works pretty well. I used the Eastwood stuff with very good results. I used it for motorcycle parts. Here are some before and after pics.



















For the smaller parts I used a toaster oven from the thrift store. Larger parts I used a drying oven I have at work for drying plants.
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My images didn't post. Go here to see them.

http://www.baisa.org/bike_pics/pwdrcoat/index.htm
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An electric oven is needed, gas is no good from what I hear but I'm not sure why.
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Harbor Freight also sells DIY powder coating kits; approximate cost is $70.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=94244

Curing of the powder can be done in conventional ovens, toaster ovens and heat lamps, but you need to get to about 400 degrees. I wouldn't recommend a torch.
There is a local guy that charges 80 for a frame and 25 for a fork. That includes removing the old paint and any prep work. That's cheap enough that I would rather someone else do the work
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A buddy of mine tried this a few years ago. He liked it enough to make a business out of it. He even took an old kitchen oven and extended it with a metal box for bigger parts. Now it's a business for him. www.awesomepowdercoat.com. He's mostly into vintage volkswagens and stuff like that but he says he can do a bike frame for me if I want. One of these days I want to go visit and try it myself.
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For large things I would defiantly recommend having someone else do it just for the PIA factor. For small stuff though, it's nice to have around.

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A buddy of mine did some parts for my sports car in a Candy Apple Red powder. He applied the powder too thick and "baked" it too long. The resulting parts looked burgandy in color and not at all what I wanted. Certain bores were reduced in size and the mating pins would not fit. I had the parts redone by a local shop.
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I'd be tempted if it weren't for the baking. I'd need to get a pretty big one for a frame. Shame, because it looks so much cleaner than spray painting. There's a local company that does it, though, so I may see how much it cost there.

Many thanks for the input.
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I just had my frame done for 50$. Sanding, prep and pain. 50$.
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yeah the guy I went do said it would be about a .003 thickness. I didn't clarify if that would be like one side of the tube and another .003 on the other for additional .006 diameter thickness. Any way he did 2 coats and I swear the tube diameter increased by almost .00312 (1/32).

If you don't tape and plug everything vital, its a real pain to remove it. Hell, even the brake cleaner and paint stripper won't touch it.
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Hell, even the brake cleaner and paint stripper won't touch it.
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That's why it's so popular. Once it's on, it's not going anywhere.
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