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Old 12-16-09, 01:05 PM   #1
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Carbon Peugeot 1000

Picked up this carbon peugeot and would like to know a little more about it.


Peugeot 1000 - Donnay carbon technology team line.








Doesn't look like the vitus carbon peugeots, came with rx100 and shimano 105 componants.
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Old 12-16-09, 01:11 PM   #2
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If Jim is twitching, I don't know what to think. That's quite an accomplishment. In any case, I've never seen it's like. A very interesting bike to say the least.

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If Jim is twitching, I don't know what to think. In any case, I've never seen it's like. A very interesting bike to say the least.

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Donnay like the tennis rackets?

and holy cow look at the grime on those hoods.
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The key to this bike are words 'Team Line'. Peugeot 'Team Line' could be considered are continuation of the 'special workshop' that built the custom order 'PY' team racing bikes and other models were all familair with. I dont have many details on the 'Team Line' concept and how it compared to the old special workshop but hwat i can tell you is that the program continued through at least the 2000 model year and possibly further.

The bike in question, PrettyShady's 1000 Team line, with its Vitus style construnction was available around 1994-ish and overlapped in production with Peugeots monobloc carbon frames. My 1994 literature include Team Line carbon bikes with both Mavic electronic shifting and Shimano RX100 groups but they have a different seat cluster design. Because PrettyShadys bike had DT shifters I'm going to guess its a '92 or '93 model. Component date codes can help to confirm or deny.

To give you an idea of the 'Team Line concept" in 1997 bikes could be custom ordered with a choice of 7 frames, 7 forks and 7 components groups to choose from. If any fork was available with any frame and any group there would be 343 possible combinations.

1997 frame choices were:
Columbus Brain
Columbus Neuron
Columbus Genius
Something aluminum
Something Carbon
'triathlon' frame
something titanium

Fork choices were:
Vitus 992 curved
Vitus 992 straight
Vitus 797 curved
Vitus 797 straight
Vitus 797 for 650c wheels
Something carbon
Columbus steel

Component choices were:
105 8s
Ultegra 8s
Athena 8s
Athena 8s w/ triple
Chorus 9s
Chous 9s w/ triple
Dura Ace 9s
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It's definitely not as late as 1997. I recognized the decals as being mid-1990s so I went to my literature and there she was, a 1994 Peugeot Carbone 1000. It was not offered in 1993 or 1995. OEM was Shimano Ultegra with STI, so it looks like it's been heavily relied upon as a donor bicycle. FYI, $2199 US MSLP.
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It definitely looks more like an ALAN built frame than a Vitus built frame



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It's definitely not as late as 1997. I recognized the decals as being mid-1990s so I went to my literature and there she was, a 1994 Peugeot Carbone 1000. It was not offered in 1993 or 1995. OEM was Shimano Ultegra with STI, so it looks like it's been heavily relied upon as a donor bicycle. FYI, $2199 US MSLP.
What makes Peugeot ID difficult is the differences in model availability in various markets. I didnt see a similar Carbon 1000 in either of my French or U.K. brochues. What country is your brochure from? I used the '97 Team Line info to give an idea of how the concept worked.

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It definitely looks more like an ALAN built frame than a Vitus built frame
Without a doubt....its an ALAN built bike.
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It's definitely not as late as 1997. I recognized the decals as being mid-1990s so I went to my literature and there she was, a 1994 Peugeot Carbone 1000. It was not offered in 1993 or 1995. OEM was Shimano Ultegra with STI, so it looks like it's been heavily relied upon as a donor bicycle. FYI, $2199 US MSLP.
Are there any catalog photos of the teamline 1000 that I could see, or is it just text information?

The date codes on the shimano parts jump around a bit,
rx100 cranks - QG and QF (1992 june, july)
105 brake - KJ (1986) RD OJ (1990)
wheels are campagnolo athena

Heres is the seat cluster;







and BB with code 54 __ 92330262
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sounds to me like it came with RX100, which would make 92-93 seem feasible. Perhaps Jim knows the end of the carbon pro / beginning of the 1000 year. If it came from the "special workshop" it makes sense that peugeot was liscenced to build up the Alan frame for orders while the carbon pro was available to the open market.
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What makes Peugeot ID difficult is the differences in model availability in various markets. I didnt see a similar Carbon 1000 in either of my French or U.K. brochues. What country is your brochure from?...
It's a Procycle product list, so it should be good for the USA and Canada. There are no pictures. It doesn't appear in any of the other 1991-1996 lists.

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sounds to me like it came with RX100, which would make 92-93 seem feasible...
I can appreciate why you would think that , given the serial number and crank date codes. However, I still am suspicious about the cranks. I find it hard to imagine that a triple crank would be OEM for this frame.


Of course, there is always the possibility that it a foreign model and therefore not 1994. However, based on the logo style , it is should be mid-1990s.
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Old 12-16-09, 10:51 PM   #14
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Dang!!! Please clean/tuneup that Peugeot ASAP!!
....I can almost hear that stem, BB and maybe that seatpost tightening their corrosive grip on the bike as every second goes by with all that dirt, grime and related moisture on it!

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It's a Procycle product list, so it should be good for the USA and Canada. There are no pictures. It doesn't appear in any of the other 1991-1996 lists.
Tom,

That explains the differences in catalogs. If I recall correctly, French made Peugeots were NOT available in the U.S. during the Procycle years but its obvious they were available in Canada. Then again we did sell sell a couple of the monobloc style carbon frames but I think they were or rebadged U.S. made Aegis frames.

Peugeot of France didnt always offer the same frames/bikes in all markets in any given year. For instance, the Vitus bikes I commented about earlier were in '93 European catalogs while the 1000 model being discussed in this thread is listed in the '94 Procycle (North American distributor/license holder) info but NOT in any European literature.

PDX, no, I dont know the end of the Carbon Pro era but its run wasnt very long. The Aegis styled monobloc carbon frame is lited in one of my '92 European catalogs. It appears the lugged style Vitus/ALAN frames overlapped with the monobloc frames from ~'92-'94.
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If it came from the "special workshop" it makes sense that peugeot was liscenced to build up the Alan frame for orders while the carbon pro was available to the open market.
Think in terms of Peugeots PY series bikes from the lates 70's through the early 80's. PY bikes could be purchased 'off the rack' or they could have been custon ordered through the special workshop. It seems as if Team Line bikes were marketed in a similar fasion. PrettyShadys bike may be an 'off the rack' Team Line bike.
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