Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 22 of 22
  1. #1
    insert witty comment here Mr_Christopher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Dallas Texas
    My Bikes
    '09 Trek 7.2 FX, mid 90s Trek 820, 1982 Schwinn Super LeTour, Legran Seville, Peugeot UE 18
    Posts
    831
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Did you know bikes don't like chlorine?

    Ok, so I had not ridden one of my road bikes in a while and when I took it down the other day I noticed there was a significant amount of rust on it, and what appeared to be corrosion. Even the new Tektro brakes showed signs of rust and corrosion which really ticked me because they're new and they have only gotten wet once. So I'm at my LBS talking to the guys there about the rust I found on my bike and we were speculating on what might have caused it.

    "You don't have any pool chemicals or chlorine near the bike do you?'

    Of course not, only a dork would do that....

    So when I got back home I investigated a little closer and sure enough there was a 25 gallon drum of chlorine tablets stored directly under my pride and joy. WHAT A DORK!

    So I'm planning to use the typical tricks to remove rust and polish the shiny bits again but I thought I would ask if anyone has any experience specifically with chlorine induced corrosion and rust.

    I got the chemicals out of the work shop and I'm going to wipe down the area where it was previously stored.

    Chris

  2. #2
    Senior Member Chombi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    8,759
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Another thing you want to keep your bike away from is Ozone. It can come from electric motorsfrom HVAC unit fan motors that lives in basements and other areas where many store their stuff like bikes. The ozone will make quick work of rotting out rubber parts from the bike. Had a motorcycle parked in anapartment basement parking structure for a few years and the furnace motor for the building that was in a room next to where I parked produced enough ozone that my tires ended up perished within a year and a half, all cracked mostly aroound the side that faced a vented door where the furnace was in.

    Chombi
    84 Peugeot PSV
    85(?) Vitus Plus Carbone 7

  3. #3
    Senior Member Chris_in_Miami's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    4,474
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yep, I had a similar experience with those tablets. In my case no bikes were harmed, but a big cache of vintage Volvo parts have a nice red patina on them...

    I've noticed that the professional pool cleaners' trucks usually look like they have one foot in the grave - chlorine and muriatic acid are seriously corrosive!

  4. #4
    K2ProFlex baby! ilikebikes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    My response would have been something along the lines of: "Does your bike have computer controlled suspension? Then shut your piehole, this baby is from the future!"
    My Bikes
    to many to list
    Posts
    6,083
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_Miami View Post
    Yep, I had a similar experience with those tablets. In my case no bikes were harmed, but a big cache of vintage Volvo parts have a nice red patina on them...

    I've noticed that the professional pool cleaners' trucks usually look like they have one foot in the grave - chlorine and muriatic acid are seriously corrosive!

    does this stuff affect human skin? or lungs? if so screw the bikes and get that crap out of your home!
    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

  5. #5
    Buh'wah?! Amani576's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Raleigh, NC
    My Bikes
    1972 Raleigh Twenty, mid-80's Trek
    Posts
    2,131
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Well... Chlorine is a corrosive gas to humans. I've been exposed to it once and had a hard time breathing for about half an hour. That was at work one time when some chlorine bleach was spilled and a moron I worked with used a liquid absorber to "clean it up", removing the liquid bleach but flooding the area around it with noxious gas.
    Not a fun day. I still haven't let that guy down for that, though he claims he did nothing wrong.
    Needless to say. Don't let those tablets get wet, except for tossing them in your pool.
    -Gene-

  6. #6
    New Orleans
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    2,308
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Duh, I did something like that, but it was worse, and should have been obvious to me.I had some HCL stored outside about 10 feet from an old motorcycle.Over time the cycle stored closest to the bottled HCL showed a bit more corrosion.

  7. #7
    slow as I ever was Ex Pres's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    an imposter living in the 35223
    My Bikes
    see signature
    Posts
    5,451
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    As as former CPO (certified pool operator), we always stored our chlorine outside (in waterproof buckets), and our chlorinators were located outside of the enclosed pump house (so gas could not collect inside). The pool testing, subsequent calculations and chemical adjustments were to prevent chlorine from rusting important components like those expensive pumps. Chlorine gas can be very dangerous to humans. You do not want to be around large amounts of the stuff.

  8. #8
    K2ProFlex baby! ilikebikes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    My response would have been something along the lines of: "Does your bike have computer controlled suspension? Then shut your piehole, this baby is from the future!"
    My Bikes
    to many to list
    Posts
    6,083
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Barker View Post
    As as former CPO (certified pool operator), we always stored our chlorine outside (in waterproof buckets), and our chlorinators were located outside of the enclosed pump house (so gas could not collect inside). The pool testing, subsequent calculations and chemical adjustments were to prevent chlorine from rusting important components like those expensive pumps. Chlorine gas can be very dangerous to humans. You do not want to be around large amounts of the stuff.


    Although you guys don't know it you may have just solved an on going breathing problem I've been having, funny! Thanks! Really, thanks much!
    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

  9. #9
    peddling fool phillyrider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Philadelphia PA
    My Bikes
    Mid 50's Frejus, Late 50's Frejus, Early 1960s Frejus Professional, Mid 1960's Frejus Professional, Early 70's Gloria (branded), 76 Blue Pogliaghi
    Posts
    507
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I guess that this is a bad idea...
    Attached Images Attached Images

  10. #10
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    5
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Barker View Post
    You do not want to be around large amounts of the stuff.
    As a former water treatment plant operator, I have to ask is twenty tons at a time considered a large amount?

  11. #11
    slow as I ever was Ex Pres's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    an imposter living in the 35223
    My Bikes
    see signature
    Posts
    5,451
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by lonotes View Post
    As a former water treatment plant operator, I have to ask is twenty tons at a time considered a large amount?
    I wouldn't be taking any deep breaths.
    I didn't even like opening 80# buckets of the stuff.
    Last edited by Ex Pres; 01-06-10 at 12:59 PM.

  12. #12
    insert witty comment here Mr_Christopher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Dallas Texas
    My Bikes
    '09 Trek 7.2 FX, mid 90s Trek 820, 1982 Schwinn Super LeTour, Legran Seville, Peugeot UE 18
    Posts
    831
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    So let me get this straight, not only should I not store chlorine tablets near my bike, I should stop eating them too? Well dang

  13. #13
    Buh'wah?! Amani576's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Raleigh, NC
    My Bikes
    1972 Raleigh Twenty, mid-80's Trek
    Posts
    2,131
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by phillyrider View Post
    I guess that this is a bad idea...
    Why do I think that's Jan Heine... Looks like a bike he might have.
    -Gene-

  14. #14
    peddling fool phillyrider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Philadelphia PA
    My Bikes
    Mid 50's Frejus, Late 50's Frejus, Early 1960s Frejus Professional, Mid 1960's Frejus Professional, Early 70's Gloria (branded), 76 Blue Pogliaghi
    Posts
    507
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I pulled the pic from the commuter forum. I think they're using a weight below the seat to keep the bike submerged. If they just used a varsity, no additional weight would be needed

  15. #15
    Bianchi Goddess Bianchigirll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Camp Hill, PA
    My Bikes
    Too many to list here check my signature.
    Posts
    18,997
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    OK I'll ask. How can you have a 25 gallon drum of Chorline tablets and not know it?
    Bianchis '87 Sport SX, '90 Proto (2), '91 Boarala 'cross, '93 Project 3, '88 Trofeo, '86 Volpe, '89 Axis, '79 Mixte, '99 Mega Pro XL Ti, '97 Ti Megatube, , '90 something Vento 603,

    Others but still loved,; '80 RIGI, '80 Batavus Professional, '87 Cornelo, '86 Bertoni (sold), '09 Motobecane SS, '98 Hetchins M.O., '09 K2 Mainframe, '89 Trek 2000, '?? Jane Doe (still on the drawing board), '90ish Haro Escape

  16. #16
    Senior Member Chris_in_Miami's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    4,474
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
    does this stuff affect human skin? or lungs? if so screw the bikes and get that crap out of your home!

    Yep, it's bad stuff. In my case, my brother moved a bucket of tablets into our detached shed/workshop, took a while for me to notice

  17. #17
    SE Wis dedhed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Milwaukee, WI
    My Bikes
    '68 Raleigh Sprite, '02 Raleigh C500, '84 Raleigh Gran Prix, '91 Trek 400
    Posts
    2,094
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by lonotes View Post
    As a former water treatment plant operator, I have to ask is twenty tons at a time considered a large amount?
    It depends on how much residual you think you'll need.
    '68 Raleigh Sprite, '02 Raleigh C500, '84 Raleigh Gran Prix, '91 Trek 400

  18. #18
    Senior Member kpug505's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Puyallup Washington
    My Bikes
    Motobecane Mirage fixed gear, Nashbar Alpha Road 5000, Bianchi Grizzly, Coppi Fiorelli, , Schwinn Trike, , GT All Terra, Old Peugeot, Nishiki 3 speed, Bugatti, Cannondale Black Lightning, Dura All, Bianchi Touring, Bridgestone T700 & more
    Posts
    1,846
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Amani576 View Post
    Why do I think that's Jan Heine... Looks like a bike he might have.
    -Gene-

    Huh? Jan has better bikes than 98% of the people on this forum...What is it about a crappy comfort bike underwater that say's "Jan"...Please excuse my ignorance but I don't get it.
    <<<That's a 1962 Alex Singer BTW...Pic taken on a 400k brevet that traveled over 3 mountain passes in 15 hours and 30 minutes.
    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacKid View Post
    We don't cotton to people who cut things off their bikes in these here parts.

    Check out my bike blog!

  19. #19
    Buh'wah?! Amani576's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Raleigh, NC
    My Bikes
    1972 Raleigh Twenty, mid-80's Trek
    Posts
    2,131
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I have nothing against Heine. The style of the bike is what I mean. It's got cues that remind me of bikes that he prefers. And I know he's somewhat of an eclectic, it just seemed like something he might do just to do. And obviously on a bike he holds little attachment to.
    In fact, I think fairly highly of him, though I know some people think he's an elitist.
    -Gene-

  20. #20
    www.theheadbadge.com cudak888's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Southern Florida
    My Bikes
    http://www.theheadbadge.com
    Posts
    22,729
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I didn't know Jan liked unicrown forks

    -Kurt

  21. #21
    . bbattle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Huntsville, Alabama
    My Bikes
    1985 Pinarello Trevisio, 1991 Colnago Master, '06 Bianchi San Jose, 1987 Moulton Fuso, '80's Gardin Shred?, '82 John Howard(Dave Tesch)
    Posts
    11,418
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hydrochloric acid, aka muriatic acid, is made by bubbling chlorine gas through water. If you have chlorine tablets and any humidity, you'll create hydrochloric acid fumes.

  22. #22
    Wherever I may roam....
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Topton Pa
    My Bikes
    A few bikes
    Posts
    1,422
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by bbattle View Post
    Hydrochloric acid, aka muriatic acid, is made by bubbling chlorine gas through water. If you have chlorine tablets and any humidity, you'll create hydrochloric acid fumes.
    ... and then I have to put on a PAPR (personal air purifying respirator) and a tychem suit and decon you. I've had to do this to a number of people exposed to chlorine/ hydrochloric acid this past summer. BAD stuff. One person had severe burns to their airway/lungs.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •