cook

Hi Guys and Gals,

I am looking for some help Identifying this bike i was given. It seems very light and has some sticker on the downtube saying tube Carbolite 103.

Anyway here are some pics to help identify the beasty.





Thanks for any help you can give.

Rob

Rob

Fast Cloud

I'm going to GUESS by the decals, shifters and carbolite frame it's a mid-eighties P-8. (Steps aside and awaits the experts)

jebensch

It's a 1984 PH-10 as I can see. From the old catalogs online it also looks to not be an American purchase, as that was only offered in white in our catalogs, but is visible in your exact scheme in the dutch one here. The Carbolite 103 stuff is okay - you don't have a winning lottery ticket or anything, but it look like a lot of fun to ride! AND it's in great shape. I'd hook up that brake cable before you go bananas though

Chombi

The stamped rear dropout and the internally brazed frame sure looks like what was used on PH10s/PH12s, plus the Carbolite tubing. It even seems to have the familiar Simplex SX610(?) RD on it. The rims could have been upgraded already.
The differences I see from the 1983 PH10s I had is the internal top tube routed rear brake cable and the slightly more sharp edged fork crown. Per my experience, these PH10s ride nice enough (just a little harsh on HP narrow tires. IIRC, I used to ride something like 19mm Turbos) and very responsive (very stiff vertically) I had a fun time upgrading mine in the 80's to eventually come up with a 22ish pound race bike by removing all reflectors, upgrading my rims (Ambrosio Elites), pedals, tires (Specialized Turbos with latex tubing), saddle and crank (Stronglight 104 bis) and RD (Suntour Cyclone MkII). Also got a lighter seat and seatpost and clamped-on DT retrofriction Simplex shifters and higher spec Weinmann brakes (605)
As already mentioned, this bike is not really a "lottery winner" find, but it's a good solid/dependable bike. It also had some nice toudhes to it like the fastback style seatstays that also seems to have an oval cross section that might have been taken from their aero Centennial bike. If anything, it's the best loooking version of the PH10 that I've seen next to the Aero Centennial bike (Now that would be a fantastic find if you come across a good minty fresh one!) which is now starting to command good money in the used C&V market.

Chombi
84 Peugeot PSV
85 Vitus Plus Cabone 7

miamijim

Peugeot only offered 1 U.S. model with an internaly routed rear brake cable, the PH12 'Centenary' 100th anniversary model. The 'anniversary' model was actualy offered from '82-'84 outside of the U.S. but it didnt carry the 100th or Centenary designation.




That being said, it a NON-U.S. model, perhaps an PH10 or PH11. Whats the serial number?

cook

Well looks like everyone had the right idea I found the actual DUTCH model range flyer.

It is a 1984 PH10LS according to this brochure.
From that brochure I am missing 2 major parts rear brake lever and handlebars.
Also have no adjustment parts and clamp parts for the CLB sidepull brakes.

For the rest its in darn nice shape not scratched real bad still has original serial number
B40455946. It also still has the production paper sticker which tells me its a PH10LS I just did not notice it before posting here

Anyway thank you all for helping out it is a very neat expirience to get back into bicycles since 1973 when my dad closed our bicycle shop (DUTCH PEDALER) in Woodland Hills, Calif.

Rob

Chombi

Forget tryng to find the original CLB brakes for this bike. They do not come up often and usually they are way overpriced for what they are because mostly of their "weight weenie" reputation. There are many better alternatives out there like Weinmanns and Universals, or even better if you could find period Suntour, Shimanos or Diacompes.
Anoter item you could improve on it are the cranks. Those solidas are defninitley downmarket with it's swaged-on spider. This nice looking frame desrves a good 1 piece forged crank. You can get a period Stronglight, Gippieme or Ofmega on it for reasonable prices. The derailleurs don't need any help and should provide bulletproof reliablity and good performance from it's slant parllelogram design....Unless you want to pretty it up real nice with maybe a Suntour Cyclone MkII drivetrain.
These mid level bikes are really fun to tinker with because you can do so much to them without feeling constrained having to stay totally original as some people feel with higher priced bikes.

Have fun with the PH10 and post up pics once you get it all back together for the road!

Chombi
84 Peugeot PSV
85 Vitus Plus Carbone 7

Grand Bois

I'd like to see a better shot of the derailer. It doesn't look like an SX810 to me.

thirdgenbird

that thing is beautiful!

T-Mar

I thought the 1984, USA version of the PH10L was also internally routed for the rear brake cable. It sure looks that way in the catalog picture.

Chombi

Looks like an SX610 to me which was pretty much standard to the mid level Peugeots at that time. It has those characteristic ribs at the back of the upper pivot body (I think my 84 PSV had this RD as standard.). Didn't even know there was an SX810, I'm curious to know what that one looks like.

Chombi

cook

Well Grand the brochure says it is a SX810 but I am not an expert anymore so here is pic/closeup of the one on my bike


Hope this is a Simplex 810 I havent found anywhere that shows what it is.

Rob

Grand Bois

It's definitely not an SX610.



It looks like the derailer in the top left of the photo that is listed as a Simplex S 061 in the PH11 specs. I don't believe that an SX810 is a drop parallelogram derailer.

All I could find was thes two examples:

https://velospace.org/node/25574

https://www.pedalroom.com/bike/1983-peugeot-p8-x-m-996

redneckwes

Hate to disagree with Jim, but I have an '84 PH10L in the basement.

https://www.cyclespeugeot.com/images/...H10L_P8_P6.jpg

Wildwood 

I too have an '84 PH10L (black) with internal routed cable, also in the basement.