cadillacmike68

Hi, My old Dettos are 1; a bit too small nowadays (after 30 yrs) and 2; the hard insole makes my feet go numb on long rides. Running shoes just don't cut it, and most bike stores look at me and laugh when i ask about shoes to fit Campy SR pedals. They don't have to be racing shoes with locking cleats, but i don't want mountain bike shoes of any designed for the new clipless pedals (I have Campy clips on my pedals)

Any suggestions as to where to look? Thanks in advance.

LesterOfPuppets

What do you dislike about running shoes? They're my favorite street shoes for quill pedals.

cadillacmike68

The outsoles of running shoes are not stiff enough and the pedal edges dig into my foot on long rides. That, and many modern shoes have such wildly textured soles, they are a PITA to get in and out of the clipped quill pedal.
What I'd really like is to find a new old pair of Avocet shoes like i bought my wife, she still wears hers and has no complaints.

But back then i was a real road bike snob and wouldn't stoop so low as to wear or buy "touring" shoes! Times change, i'm not racing any more, but i still like to ride. Perhaps i can get a very stiff insole for my old adidas shoes, but then i'd be right back at the problem i have with my Detto Pietros - insole is too stiff and my feet go numb...

ParaWK4

Look at Adidas Samba indoor soccer shoes - the ones with the dark brown soles.

LesterOfPuppets

Those Sambas kill me on quills. Quite a thin sole. What I like about running shoes is that the thick sole keeps the back blade of the pedal from digging in to my foot.

Mike Mills

"I feel your pain, man."

I really wish someone would come out with some decent vintage-styled leather cycling shoes that don't cost $300.

Here's a pair I purchased and use. They have a pleasantly rounded toe box. They are quite comfortable and more than stiff enough on the bottom for cycling, yet they are flexible enough to walk in comfortably. They are unique in this regard. They are light in weight and breathable. They have an SPD fitting on the bottom but I do not use it, so the little plug stays in place on mine. I use these with clips and straps. They use laces which do not interfere with entry/exit from straps rather than Velcro straps.

https://https://www.amazon.com/Shimano.../dp/B000XVQ01O



P.S. - Amazon does not have any in stock but search the internet for a source of supply.

merlinextraligh

Any modern racing type shoe with a 3 bolt cleat circle can be used. there are cleats available that will bolt into the 3 bolt pattern

I have a pair of Diadora's with cleats that I use with Campy super leggera pedals

merlinextraligh

Stiffness of the shoe is not likely causing the numbness. Fit and cleat position will make your feet go numb. But the stiffest shoe, that fits correctly and has the cleat adjusted properly should not make your feet numb.

Wulf

Ebay always has a pretty good selection but you have to wade thru pages of newer stuff
(I bought a pair of NIB Duegi shoes recently for $30)
Craigslist has them sometimes depending on your location.
If you are near Laguna Hills, Ca there is a bike shop with brand new cleated shoes they import.

Wulf

I have some never-worn SIDI Titanium shoes you can have cheap size 43

Noah Scape

This may not be quite what you're looking for, but have you seen these? The Timberland Folsom Bike Life... or something like that. I just ordered a pair. I haven't received them yet but they look like a good all-purpose commuter/touring shoe.

cadillacmike68

Then its probably the smallness of the old Dettos (42). I rode those for a week without cleats when i first bought them to get a good cage line and had my bike shop nail in the TA cleats. They never hurt my feet or made them numb back in MA, it's recently - and i guess my feet grew a bit in the intervening years - that they get numb.
Thanks for all the replies and i'll dig through the 2,000 items on ebay and look at some of the other alternatives mentioned.

The Timberlands look nice but might b a bit warm for FL - then again in the winter here they might be nice, so i may give them a try.

I did find a Reynolds shoe in the UK that they want over 90 pounds for (what's that almost $200??), umm, that is a bit much and the site said they cannot take credit cards for payment??? Umm the timberlands are looking better...

Noah Scape

There's also the Exustar touring shoe.

due ruote 

https://www.lakecycling.com/mx90-p-107.html

These Lake touring shoes look pretty good to me, but I've never tried them. I don't know of a source for SPD compatible cleats. Unless someone else does, these would have to be ridden as is with quill pedals.

Yellow Jersey has plastic cleats that will mount on Look compatible modern shoes, but they're pretty pricey imho. https://www.yellowjersey.org/tocleat.html

jebensch

I've been really happy with my Adidas driving shoes (despite the ridiculous designation). The upper is thick enough to keep your toesies from getting chewed up by the pedal clips, the soles are stiff enough to not go numb on the balls of your feet, and the lack of tread makes it way easier to get in and out of the pedals+clips. Two big-toes up.

big chainring 

Wow. Thats the ticket for me. Thanks for posting.

sced

https://sporting-goods.shop.ebay.com/...s&_osacat=7294

noglider 

I never could stand quill pedals. They jut right into my soles. I have wide feet. What's the point of the quill, anyway? Do people inadvertently slide their feet out to the side?

cyclotoine

Chrome now does shoes with shanks and boardlasted construction... sounds sweet but I'm sort of past my punk phase and am not so keen on the PF Flyers/chuck taylors look.

https://www.chromebagsstore.com/shoes/kursk.html#

I like those timberlands but I wonder if they are discontinued? Can only find limited sizes online.

mickey85

I've got a set of quill Campy pedals, and I'd second the Sambas, but you already vetoed that. Sorry I couldn't be of more help - they're pretty comfy for me (size 13 shoe, 200+ lbs) for 50+ miles. They're honestly going to be my brevet shoe this summer when I try that.

JohnDThompson 

Maybe different pedals? I've found the Campagnolo "Triomphe" to be one of the most comfortable pedals for street shoes:


Or the Lyotard "Martcel Berthet" pedal:

Mike Mills

I think numbness comes from a pressure point caused, for example, by the toe clip on top of the shoe. There is a big nerve on top of your foot that, if aggravated, could give you numb feet.

I don't like Velcro straps on a bike with clips and straps as they interfere with foot entry & exit from the clip/strap.

elcraft

https://www.yellowjersey.org/scrpvecc.html

Yellow Jersey has a selection of cleat and toe clip type cycling shoes. This bunch has very limited sizes and all appear to be Italian leather.

Mike Mills

The ones at Yellow Jersey are all way too small for me.

cadillacmike68

Thanks for the suggestion, but

My bike is staying as it was when new, and that includes the Campy Record SL pedals. If Miguel Indurain and Eddy Mercyx can ride 100 miles a day in Record / SR pedals for 3 weeks straight, than i can go 30-40 miles once in a while. I just need the right shoes.