Commission of a vintage "Crime"??
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Commission of a vintage "Crime"??
If I were to put a modern Shimano Crankset on my Vintage steel, mostly Campy Bike, would I be committing a vintage bike "Blasphemy"?? Had leg surgery and need to ease up a little, want to put on compact crank, have the parts, would rather have a Campy set but don't need to spend the money..I just feel funny about it, would it be better if it were Campy??
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There's a good chance I'll be putting shimano hubs (cassette rear, dyno front) on a french bike I'm working on. I want a cassette hub that can take a mtb cassette and I want a dynohub, but don't feel like paying for a non-shimano dyno. Do whatever you want.
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I do stuff like that all the time. Do whatever suits you.
I have a SunTour front derailleur on my mostly Campy Nuovo Record equipped McLean, because the original derailleur wore out, and this was the only high-end thing I could get at the time. It works fine, and it looks good enough.
I have a SunTour front derailleur on my mostly Campy Nuovo Record equipped McLean, because the original derailleur wore out, and this was the only high-end thing I could get at the time. It works fine, and it looks good enough.
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others may not approve, bike snobs may cry and wail....
- do exactly what you want - it's your bike.
- do exactly what you want - it's your bike.
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Only the diehard purists will have any objection.
Doesn't sound like the bike is in the "collector's" category so make it suitable for you.
I prefer 50/34 myself.
Doesn't sound like the bike is in the "collector's" category so make it suitable for you.
I prefer 50/34 myself.
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My originally full Campy bike now has, inaddition to what's left of the orginal record stuff, three different models of shimano 600, Miche, and a little Gipiemme for good measure. Things wear out or don't work - fret not, the only crime is not riding it.
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If the bike is for show, pay attention to appearance. If you are going to ride the bike, install what works best.
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The crime would be for the bicycle not to be ridden. I only have reservations when owners perform irreversible procedures, such as cutting off braze-ons, which limits resale potential and value. Do whatever you need to do, to be able to ride it. Good luck with your rehabilitation. Hopefully, cycling will help.
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That would be a shocking outrage--a crime against humanity. You should be ashamed for even considering it.
Just kidding. In my opinion there's never anything wrong with switching parts as long as you don't take a drill or grinder to anything.
Just kidding. In my opinion there's never anything wrong with switching parts as long as you don't take a drill or grinder to anything.
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If you're old steel bike is Italian you can expect:
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
otherwise if you ride it more, why not?
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
otherwise if you ride it more, why not?
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how compact of a crankset do you need? it might take some snooping around but a Victory or Triomphe can take an inner ring of 35 however you are limited to a 170 arm
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You could put this on the bike. Most wouldn't notice it. I put one on my Super Course with a 13/22 freewheel .
https://www.velo-orange.com/sualcr.html
https://www.velo-orange.com/sualcr.html
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I'm not even sure I agree about taking a grinder being a sin. I did the opposite to my McLean. It was made in 1982, and it had no braze-ons whatsoever. The top-tube cable clips scratched the paint. It was a racing bike so it had no rack/fender eyelets. So when I had the bike repainted, I had top-tube cable guides put on and eyelets put on the fork tips and dropouts. So now it looks less like a racing bike. I figured I'd take it on tour again, which I did in the past, but I haven't done so, and now that I have a collection of bikes, I don't think I will. But I don't regret the changes, either.
I like the consensus we've reached here. Everyone is very supportive.
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I'm not even sure I agree about taking a grinder being a sin. I did the opposite to my McLean. It was made in 1982, and it had no braze-ons whatsoever. The top-tube cable clips scratched the paint. It was a racing bike so it had no rack/fender eyelets. So when I had the bike repainted, I had top-tube cable guides put on and eyelets put on the fork tips and dropouts. So now it looks less like a racing bike. I figured I'd take it on tour again, which I did in the past, but I haven't done so, and now that I have a collection of bikes, I don't think I will. But I don't regret the changes, either.
I like the consensus we've reached here. Everyone is very supportive.
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Back in "vintage bike" days, manufacturers had no qualms about mixing component makes on their bicycles. I had mid-1980s Bianchi with Campy Nuovo Record derailleurs and shifters; Ofmega cranks, headset, and seatpot; Universal brakes; Ambrosia wheels.
I've owned several Campy equipped bikes but personally prefer Shimano components. My Campy gear has been finicky and more trouble-prone, so I eventually switched all of my bikes over to Ultegra and Dura-Ace components. However, when I had my most recent bike built up, I used a Campy Centaur crank because it was so much prettier than the Shimano alternatives. It functions perfectly with the Ultegra and Dura-Ace derailleurs and shifters.
I've owned several Campy equipped bikes but personally prefer Shimano components. My Campy gear has been finicky and more trouble-prone, so I eventually switched all of my bikes over to Ultegra and Dura-Ace components. However, when I had my most recent bike built up, I used a Campy Centaur crank because it was so much prettier than the Shimano alternatives. It functions perfectly with the Ultegra and Dura-Ace derailleurs and shifters.
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As said above, no problem except if it's a collector's bicycle or if you cut or grind off anything.
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If I were to put a modern Shimano Crankset on my Vintage steel, mostly Campy Bike, would I be committing a vintage bike "Blasphemy"?? Had leg surgery and need to ease up a little, want to put on compact crank, have the parts, would rather have a Campy set but don't need to spend the money..I just feel funny about it, would it be better if it were Campy??
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You could put this on the bike. Most wouldn't notice it. I put one on my Super Course with a 13/22 freewheel .
https://www.velo-orange.com/sualcr.html
https://www.velo-orange.com/sualcr.html
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