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    Thank you Kingsting! I probably misunderstood the country of origin, so it is Malaysia and not Taiwan, great clarification. I will check it personally this weekend, let's see.
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    From what I've seen, the Malaysian bikes were lower priced models. (S22 and S22L?) The most noticeable differences were the box-section rims, mattress saddles, blackwall tires, and no pump pegs on the frame.
    There's always room for one more bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingsting View Post
    From what I've seen, the Malaysian bikes were lower priced models. (S22 and S22L?) The most noticeable differences were the box-section rims, mattress saddles, blackwall tires, and no pump pegs on the frame.
    This one has pump pegs and a pump on it, the hub has 72 on it (1972), therefore, I'm assuming it was built in England. I'll let everybody know more after I see it tomorrow. Thanks again kingsting.
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    This thread is right up my alley.
    I'm new to the forum, but stay tuned for pics of a few English bikes I brought home due to lapses in better judgment.
    •1963 Nottingham made Rollfast 20" basic sports type 3 speed
    •His & hers '72 BSAs...
    •1960 Dunelt (en route)
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    In response to kingsting: I had a 1988 Raleigh Sport that was made in Taiwan, It was a decent bike even with steel rims, generic brakes/levers, and a vinyl mattress saddle. I ended up replacing the handlebars with nitto upright bars, brooks saddle, and cork grips.

    here it is in it's prime taking me to work.


    Then it met a untimely demise on April Fools day about 2 years ago, some girl hit me in her prius. I still haven't thrown away the frame as it still sits in my shed. Most of the damage was to the wheels, fenders, and basket. Im not to sure if the frame is bent, looking it over it looks fine. Spacing is still correct and it did not have any bends from what I can tell. When she hit me she was not going fast at all. I honestly think the wheels bent because of me and my weight, my body took most of the damage.

    the aftermath.



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    jamesj, nice bike and sad story. Have you replaced it?

    Please use periods between your sentences so we don't have to think about what you mean. Thanks.
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    Am loving my English three speed today... it's cold and slushy and after a 10km commute you would be hard pressed to tell my bike has gone anywhere as the drive train is clean and this has a lot lot do with running really good fenders as well.

    Rode the other night when it was -30C and the hub never missed a beat... biggest plus to the old AW or in my case, AG is that you can run them with synthetic oil in the winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowbarber View Post
    This thread is right up my alley.
    I'm new to the forum, but stay tuned for pics of a few English bikes I brought home due to lapses in better judgment.
    •1963 Nottingham made Rollfast 20" basic sports type 3 speed
    •His & hers '72 BSAs...
    •1960 Dunelt (en route)
    My love of English three speeds is what drew me to BIke Forums in the first place as I found that other sites were lacking when it came to information and suitable amounts of three speed porn.

    That was almost 5 years and 18,000 + posts ago... and am always impressed at how this thread just keeps going and going and going.


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    @noglider: I cleaned up the text in my previous comment. Hopefully it reads better.
    I have not replaced the Raleigh. I have the TREK 412 that is my commuter/everyday ride but honestly I really miss having a 3 speed around.

    I wonder if I take the frame in to a decent bike shop can they tell me if it is bent.

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    well sixtyfiver, these first pics are for you then:
    These were a total impulse buy, a little wrecked from spending most of their lives out on Long Island's south shore.
    Original tires(?) were still in ride-able shape.
    I need a to find a bolt for one of the brake levers.
    I think once I get the little sand particles rinsed out of the rear hubs, they will both ride fine.

    Then I'll have to figure out what to do with them, I have no space at all to keep them.

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    Wow, lucky you! Beautiful bicycles.
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    This one was abandoned on my street for more than a year when I found it moments after NY Dept. of Sanitation got sick of looking at it and clipped it loose.

    A little small for me, but I ride the crap out of it almost every day.
    More pics later.
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    I believe this is a 21" frame, how tall are you / inseam ? (If you don't mind sharing).
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    Oh, I like the His & hers BSA's! Very special indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velognome View Post
    Oh, I like the His & hers BSA's! Very special indeed.
    I'm with you on the BSA's. Neat bikes and appear pretty clean besides. I guess I need to post pics of the 1971 his and hers Hercules I recently purchased and of the 1959 Hercules Hawthorne project bike too. I am loving these three speeds. I think it is the simplicity and elegance of the design that does it for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowbarber View Post
    This one was abandoned on my street for more than a year when I found it moments after NY Dept. of Sanitation got sick of looking at it and clipped it loose.
    A Rollfast...as in H.P. Snyder Manufacturing? I love the badge and seat tube decal on yours ! I have a lowly Mohawk by that company in Little Falls NY. It's from the early 70s (as far as I can tell with what little info there is) and was certainly a low-budget department store bike but I really enjoy it... even with its Shimano 333 hub and twist grip shifter. I'm waiting for creme Schwalbe Delta Cruisers to arrive that will complete this surprisingly competent little blast from the past.
    I plan on living forever... so far so good.

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    Yep, it's 21". I'm 6'2". That's why I put that extra long seatpost stem on there, so I can reach the pedals without murdering my knees.
    Quote Originally Posted by BRAZUCA View Post
    I believe this is a 21" frame, how tall are you / inseam ? (If you don't mind sharing).
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowbarber View Post
    Yep, it's 21". I'm 6'2". That's why I put that extra long seatpost stem on there, so I can reach the pedals without murdering my knees.
    That is a really nice Rollfast and you were so lucky to have been there at the right time to snag it. Some people have all the luck, though I'm not one of those people.
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    Are you familiar with string testing a frame? randyjawa's site has instructions here:

    http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpe...ngFrameSet.htm

    I'd take the rear wheel and rear fender off to do the test and assess the frame. Perhaps it'll help. Maybe you can save the bike if you really like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesj View Post
    @noglider: I cleaned up the text in my previous comment. Hopefully it reads better.
    I have not replaced the Raleigh. I have the TREK 412 that is my commuter/everyday ride but honestly I really miss having a 3 speed around.

    I wonder if I take the frame in to a decent bike shop can they tell me if it is bent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPolishJimmy View Post
    I'd take the rear wheel and rear fender off to do the test and assess the frame. Perhaps it'll help. Maybe you can save the bike if you really like it.
    The bike I'm riding was run over by the coffee & donut guy who parks on the corner where I found it. The old steel rim was able to be straightened and the frame is unbelievably straight. You really can't beat steel; an alloy framed ride wouldn't have survived such abuse.
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    I needed/wanted a bike down at my family's place in Va. so I can take the train or bus down instead of driving
    Here's what I found:
    1962 Dunelt, 21" frame, from the original owner (who was smart enough to not let me low-ball him for it)


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    I have one of the Malaysian built Sports. It was purchased used in 1982 and has well over 30,000 hard miles on it. Still chugging along as my beer bike. The fork and the left right crank arm were replaced after a crash back around 1992 or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowbarber View Post
    Oh baby, I like those fenders.
    I have spoken.

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    Oh baby, I like that attachment.
    I was hoping to get the picture in there, not the number.
    I have spoken.

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    Well, I have determined that riding my old Phillips 3 speed is: smoother, more fun, more relaxing, better exercise, more enjoyable, and less hassle than riding my newer Miyata 610 which weights less than half as much and has 15 possible gears ( I use like 7-9 of them). In fact I seem to travel the same 21 miles of my favorite loop, slightly faster on the Phillips...... The 17.5 loop with hills is slightly slower, maybe the walking and pushing the bike is slower than spinning like a squirrel in in a cage in low/low.
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