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    Quote Originally Posted by slowtostart View Post
    I am still frustrated in my lack of skill to name or date this one. I've tried to show the color, now complete chaincase, evidence of mud flap on front fender, and lack of white tail at rear. The serial # is 681325 T, the wheels are stainless 1 x 3/8, and the hub has only a "1" visible. There is a fork lock, but no key. It has a hefty "cafe" lock at the rear and I do have the keys for it. Shifter has been replaced, so no clue there. Everything, including the seat post has a Raleigh stamp in evidence. None of the nuts show the red "R" seen on my Sports.


    Sadly, my husband has no interest in keeping this. I could salvage the wheels, rack, and lock to use on one of my Sports and simply pass along the frame. I have only $75 invested so far.


    Thoughts?

    According to Kurt, the serial is Convention #1, of which there is a list published by Raleigh online some ten years ago. Sheldon Brown has the start serials for each year. According to Sheldon, 681325 T corresponds to a 1954 bike, probably made in the latter part of the year.


    Now that I'm looking through your older posts, what happened to the Dunelt? I'm assuming that your husband is currently riding the Dunlet. This '54 Raleigh is a big step up in quality, and I would canibalize the Dunlet to swap parts with this Raleigh. I would suspect that the trouble is in the somewhat low handlebars and saddle not being as comfortable as the setup the Dunlet has, and perhaps the rod brakes not working as well as the caliper setups the other Sports have.


    The wheels on the Raleigh are Westrick, so you can transfer over the caliper brakes as well as the saddle and stem/handlebars from the Dunlet and use them on the Raleigh without trouble. Alternatively, Kool Stop salmon pads for rod brakes are now available, so if you want to keep the rod brakes, that is a good way of improving the braking.




    Quality in Raleighs started to deteriorate in the early 60s, so anything pre-1962ish is quite a treat. Greywolf wrote on this a while ago, but the pre-60s Raleighs have oilers everywhere, so that both hubs and the bottom bracket can be maintained by simply opening the various oil ports, and adding a few drops of motor oil, no need to grab the wrenches to disassemble and lubricate the moving parts. The only tools for day to day maintence are the air pump for the tires, an oiling can for the moving parts, and an adjustable wrench to tighten anything that might be loose.

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    That's some really nice work on the poster -- and looks like a fun event!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    Do we get a point even though it has 7 speeds ?

    Definitely get a point for that one, Sixty! That's really pretty rad.
    Is that your goin' fishin' bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by auchencrow View Post
    Definitely get a point for that one, Sixty! That's really pretty rad.
    Is that your goin' fishin' bike?
    It should be a nice bike for that 100 mile ride to the fishing hole.

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    More info over at Society of Three Speeds.

    And the poster I whipped up for it:

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    Nice artwork on the poster. I also like your website.



    Well, for all you 3 speedsters that are in and around SE Michigan I have a website developed to serve as an info hub for my rides. The first one is April 21st. I may do more if there is interest. More info at www.scr3sptour.weebly.com. It's not 100% complete but it's a start.
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    Hi Tom, pics of the '67 Hercules to follow...

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    SUMMER of LOVE & MEET THE BEATLES...

    Here we have an extremely nice all-original Gold & Chrome Hercules from the "SUMMER of LOVE" - 1967.

    When I bought it I also bought a basket case Raleigh-Nottingham-built Western Auto from the year that the BEATLES invaded the USA in earnest - 1964 - hence "MEET THE BEATLES" from their iconic 1964 album of that name.

    There are some really interesting things about these bikes that are worth discussing on this, the best of the English 3-speed threads.

    Other pics to follow; with notes and questions about the build parts differences and similarities...

    BTW, I have one pic showing the two bikes side-by-side, a nice picture it is too, but it is 2.2MB and the BF format will not accept anything larger than 2.0MB. Anyone able to recommend any free and user-friendly photo-editing software either online or downloadable?

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    Raleigh-built in Nottingham, England

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    FIRST PIC
    Sorry that this one is out of focus; a decal on the seat tube; commonly seen on Raleigh-built machines that are NOT Raleighs.

    SECOND PIC
    The Wrights saddle on the beater bike was made in Poland.

    THIRD PIC
    The Persons saddle on the Hercules was made in the USA.

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    ON CHAINGUARDS, --good, better, best...

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    The Hercules chainguard is, to me, a thing of beauty - with its "Tron-like" trapezoidal shape and in chrome.

    Like the Western Auto bike, and unlike a true Raleigh, with their two braised-on front tabs on the frame, the Herc's guard is affixed at two points only, as opposed to the true Raleigh's three. The shape of the WA's guard is pretty much the same as a Raleigh's from that time.

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    THE ALL-PURPOSE CHAINRING

    Notice that the chainring is the same in the two pics above. This seems to be the all-purpose chainring produced by Raleigh Industries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate View Post
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    BTW, I have one pic showing the two bikes side-by-side, a nice picture it is too, but it is 2.2MB and the BF format will not accept anything larger than 2.0MB. Anyone able to recommend any free and user-friendly photo-editing software either online or downloadable?

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    When did xpt give way to pletscher as the oem raleigh kickstand?

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    We own a number of 70's Raleigh Sports bicycles now and they all seem to have come with the oft-imitated, never excelled Swiss PLETSCHER single-leg kickstand.

    The two bikes here, Hercules and Western Auto, came OEM with two variations of a kickstand made by a firm that called had XPT cast into the cast aluminum receiver. The leg on the Hercules is adjustable, that on the Western Auto is not, otherwise they appear to be exactly the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auchencrow View Post
    Gracias.

    We've had our houseplants outside [no lower than 33 F nights] since the 5th of this month. I understand y'all have not fared as clemently.

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    What is this and why is it important?

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    Well, everyone can see the pic.

    This little thingy clamped to the frame is a part from a Raleigh-built-in-Nottingham Western Auto bicycle from 1964.

    The little thingy clamped to the frame is made of metal.

    Later, these parts became to be made by Raleigh of plastic instead of metal. Mistake.

    Question for ye graybeards in 3-speed lore out there....

    What was/were the year[s] that Raleigh switched to plastic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate View Post
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    The Hercules chainguard is, to me, a thing of beauty - with its "Tron-like" trapezoidal shape and in chrome.
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    Looks nice, but mine often catches on the cuff of my trousers ... I guess I have mixed feelings about it.
    Also, the chainring on my '66 Hercules is different to that.

    Put about 30 miles on it this weekend :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard View Post
    Looks nice, but mine often catches on the cuff of my trousers ... I guess I have mixed feelings about it.
    Also, the chainring on my '66 Hercules is different to that.
    I hadn't thought about that but I can see where it could... Thanks!

    BTW, do you have a pic of the guard on your '66?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate View Post
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    The leg on the Hercules is adjustable,
    Oops, I meant to put a pic of the "adjustable" part. Here it is:

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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate View Post
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    Well, everyone can see the pic.

    This little thingy clamped to the frame is a part from a Raleigh-built-in-Nottingham Western Auto bicycle from 1964.

    The little thingy clamped to the frame is made of metal.

    Later, these parts became to be made by Raleigh of plastic instead of metal. Mistake.

    Question for ye graybeards in 3-speed lore out there....

    What was/were the year[s] that Raleigh switched to plastic?

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    In Sturmey Archer parlance, this is a "Fulcrum clamp". It is a two part (not counting the clamping nut and bolt) cable stop for the three speed cable the cable housing from the shifter would end here and the cable would continue on to a small grey plastic pulley wheel clamped at the bottom of the seat tube. The cable then went to the "indicator spindle" which actually shifted the hub. All of these parts are still available, if anything is missing. Some of the Raleigh-made clones (with other branding , like Hercules,etc.) would have a complete cable housing run all the way from the shifter down to a cable stop, clamped on the chain stay. If you are in a harsh weather environment, the full cable housing method was better, otherwise the little pulley system seemed to be better. The plastic was introduced around '68 0r '69 on the clones, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate View Post
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    Well, everyone can see the pic.

    This little thingy clamped to the frame is a part from a Raleigh-built-in-Nottingham Western Auto bicycle from 1964.

    The little thingy clamped to the frame is made of metal.

    Later, these parts became to be made by Raleigh of plastic instead of metal. Mistake.

    Question for ye graybeards in 3-speed lore out there....

    What was/were the year[s] that Raleigh switched to plastic?
    Both the pulley and the fulcrum sleeve were both steel prior to about 1963, around 1964 the pulleys became plastic the fulcrum sleeve followed by about 1965/66. FWIW I convert all of my bikes back to the steel for longevity and reduced maintenance.

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    Finally found the headlamp of my dreams, a 1960's Elite. Now hunting for a 3V LED bulb with an E10 screw-type base to replace the relatively dim tungsten bulb. (Never satisfied!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by w1gfh View Post
    Finally found the headlamp of my dreams, a 1960's Elite. Now hunting for a 3V LED bulb with an E10 screw-type base to replace the relatively dim tungsten bulb. (Never satisfied!)
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    There are some cheap but bright ones on ebay and they work, but no standlight like the gentleman cyclist ones.

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    Thanks, I'll have a bit more on this later. See my note to Aaron below; tx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wahoonc View Post
    Both the pulley and the fulcrum sleeve were both steel prior to about 1963, around 1964 the pulleys became plastic the fulcrum sleeve followed by about 1965/66. FWIW I convert all of my bikes back to the steel for longevity and reduced maintenance.

    Aaron
    I had noted your advice earlier in the thread and am doing the same. The metal fulcrum sleeve from the Western Auto bike will be going on my wife's practically perfect Raleigh Sports.

    Speaking of GC [Gentleman Cyclist] just wanted to put in a plug for them here. Reproduction and VHQ fulcrum sleeves, pulley wheels, brass Schrader valve caps and more... http://www.home.earthlink.net/~stein...erchandise.htm

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    '67 Raleigh Sprite 5-spd

    Hubby bought a women's '67 Raleigh Sprite 5-spd at an auction this wknd for $10. It's in pretty rough shape as it appears to have been left outside for about 10 yrs! The tires are shot and the chain is pretty rusty, as are the fenders and chain guard. It is complete, tho'.

    My thought was to try to clean it up as best as I can to see if everything is operable.

    Are there any thoughts/comments out there about how functional or reliable the 5-spd is, before I get into doing alot of work on it. I now have a Sport 3-sp that I've refubished, but thought a 5 spd was interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglee67 View Post
    Hubby bought a women's '67 Raleigh Sprite 5-spd at an auction this wknd for $10. It's in pretty rough shape as it appears to have been left outside for about 10 yrs! The tires are shot and the chain is pretty rusty, as are the fenders and chain guard. It is complete, tho'.

    My thought was to try to clean it up as best as I can to see if everything is operable.

    Are there any thoughts/comments out there about how functional or reliable the 5-spd is, before I get into doing alot of work on it. I now have a Sport 3-sp that I've refubished, but thought a 5 spd was interesting.
    The early Sprites are great. I have a pair from 1967. I don't really use the left side shifter much, ride it like a 3-speed. I think $10 is a steal, just for parts.
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