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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate View Post
    Don't know how closely you want to put it back to original but Kenda has the only thing going that I have found that approximates the "look" of the original narrow [2 stripe] tires. I have not seen these in person but do have plans to put them on my wife's Sports at some point: http://www.amazon.com/Kenda-Street-K...8+bicycle+tire

    Another thing that's interesting about your bike is the coaster brake. Here's a link to the pages in the 1970 catalog; see what you think: http://www.kurtkaminer.com/TH_raleigh_cat_70.html
    I'll have to check that out for the tires. My girlfriend is pretty adamant that she wants gumwalled, though. I noticed the coaster brake...I'm not too sure what it means for the bike though.
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    This is my first serious "yes, I'm actually going to ride this" bike. It was advertised on Craigslist about two weeks ago as a 1957 Hercules. After a quick skim of Sheldon Brown's site, I tried to retain as much knowledge as possible upon going to pick it up (ha). I couldn't find the date on the hub but hey, it looked old, so 1957 couldn't be that far off, right? Well I finally found the (worn) date and it turns out it's a 1972. Nothin' to sneeze at, says Sheldon!

    Here's what I've done so far, the mistakes I've made, and some glamour shots of course:

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    Cut off the old, dirty plastic grips and put some cork on. Didn't really measure as I should've and the bars end ~3/4" before the grips do! I also added a Pletscher rack and a Brooks-knockoff (Gyes) saddle I had lying around from an old Peugeot that was too difficult for my novice self to fix. I did, however, change the tires myself. Panaracer 650As! New brake pads, too.

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    It did come with this BALLIN' Mickey Mouse bell preinstalled, though.

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    No zip ties! So I shellacked leather shoelaces instead. (And roughed 'em up a little with sandpaper.)

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    Washed, polished, and waxed as much as I could.

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    I misread the instructions about how to remove the shift cable and bent up the spring in the shifter which came with the bike. So I put this one on instead.

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    The rubber taillight housing cleaned up really nicely with some Angelus Spot Remover I had lying around.

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    No cap on the fender! Ugh! I must've hit that fender for an hour with a rubber mallet trying to get it straight and it STILL sits all cockeyed. I'm thinkin' about getting replacement SKS silver ones, but I'll miss that green! What do you guys think?

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    Obscenely long front brake cable. I also accidentally polished off the (already mostly gone) paint from the Hercules badge. Whoops!

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    This AW hub had a piece of wood and some electrical tape acting as the oil plug. So I got a plastic cap from Harris (insane shipping cost and all) and tried to press it in instead of screwing! Bent the plastic threads back into shape with an X-acto knife after screaming into a towel for 20 minutes. Oh, I made sure to flush it with WD-40 and refill with some Shell SAE30 non-detergent oil.

    So what's left? My front axle is most certainly bent, but at an equal rate so the wheel still sits reasonably straight in the fork. I can't unscrew the adjusting nuts all the way off the axle though, and the bearings probably need to be re-greased. Recommendations for a new front hub? Oh god, I don't know a thing about spoke adjustment, either. Might just have to keep it as-is for now.

    If you guys have any other tips, I'd be glad to hear 'em.
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    1935 Hercules Model G with a preserved and restored to road-going status.

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    What a beauty!

    Quote Originally Posted by SirMike1983 View Post
    1935 Hercules Model G with a preserved and restored to road-going status.

    http://www.bikeshedva.blogspot.com/2...d-model-g.html








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    Quote Originally Posted by SirMike1983 View Post
    1935 Hercules Model G with a preserved and restored to road-going status.

    http://www.bikeshedva.blogspot.com/2...d-model-g.html
    Excellent work [as usual]. That black-out paint scheme is arresting to say the least. Would the bike have come with - or optionally had available - that "clydesdale" 3 rail Brooks saddle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate View Post
    Excellent work [as usual]. That black-out paint scheme is arresting to say the least. Would the bike have come with - or optionally had available - that "clydesdale" 3 rail Brooks saddle?
    Thanks for the good word. The catalog lists the original as a Hercules mattress saddle with Brooks 66 style set up. I had this saddle sitting unused and it seemed to look the part. It's overkill for me, but it's comfortable enough.
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    This one is a bit of a mongrel. A decade ago, I bought this 55 Humber Sports in very sad shape missing a bunch of parts with a bent bifurcated fork. I had a reputable frame guy straighten the fork and salvaged a drive train from a bent frame 64 Superbe. I slapped a set of those ebay decals right over the existing decals, rust and faded paint. Looks decent. I intend to collect the rest of it but for now, a neighbour needs a bike to ride on doctors orders. I'll let her have her way with this until I find some Humber pedals, proper hubs, lights etc.
    The exterior is ratty but the chrome is thick and lustrous and every thing buttoned up smoothly. Great quality frames.


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    I hope you all can excuse a slightly off topic post........I think it fits the intent of the thread.


    So what do you do if you have a nice Dunelt frame with good patina but no 3 speed rear wheel? Instead of leaving it languish and wait for parts I decided a 5 speed commuter would be a good idea considering I already had a proper sized rim built up with a 6 speed freewheel hub. I am still working on this so more pics will be coming if there is enough interest (not to far off topic).




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    Beautiful Hercules! Here is another classic quadrant shifter, rod brake equipped, with AW hub a 1949 Comrade Roadster Model, built by the Comrade Cycles Company Darlaston, England. If anyone had information about this company please let me know. More pictures on Flicker http://www.flickr.com/photos/73emgee...7624401628722/ Also on my blog http://classicthreespeeds.blogspot.comIMG_1145_2.jpgIMG_0873.jpgIMG_0916.jpg

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    So many great bikes... really like the Dunelt even though it has one of those funny derailleur thingies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    So many great bikes... really like the Dunelt even though it has one of those funny derailleur thingies.
    Thanks, I am pleased with how it is turning out. I have done a bit more to it. I will try to get some new pics.
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    Fixed1313, perhaps I'm a bit biased, (see link below!) but I like what you've done with your Dunelt, it looks great. However, that nylon bag has to go!! This bike needs a proper British saddle bag like a a Brooks to match your saddle or a Carradice Barley.

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    For the love of English 3 speeds...

    I agree completely, just need the cash to do it. It will most likely be a Caradice bag, already need to order the long flap camper for another bike, will most likely put the Barley on this one. The canvas bag is really a handlebar bag that was on my winter commuter/drop bar MTB. Just looked the part and was in the shop already, and I needed a new seat more than a bag at the moment.

    Yours looks great as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixed1313 View Post
    I agree completely, just need the cash to do it. It will most likely be a Caradice bag, already need to order the long flap camper for another bike, will most likely put the Barley on this one. The canvas bag is really a handlebar bag that was on my winter commuter/drop bar MTB. Just looked the part and was in the shop already, and I needed a new seat more than a bag at the moment.

    Yours looks great as well.
    In case you are not aware, a British company called Wiggles is probably the best place to buy your Carradice bag(s) when it's time. I bought (2) Barley's from them each at about half of what I would have paid through a dealer here in the states and shipping was free. Current price for a Barley here is about $109.00 plus shipping. Wiggles price is $65.00 and shipping is free once you spend a total of $77.35. Here's a link for you:

    http://www.wiggle.com/carradice-barley-saddle-bag/
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    Excellent price, thanks for sharing the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 73emgee View Post
    Excellent price, thanks for sharing the link.
    Always glad to share with my fellow CV'ers. I might add that after I bought my two Barley's, I decided to offer one for sale. The buyer got a new Carradice for a lot less than what he would have spent and I broke even with a new bag for my Raleigh Sports.
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    For the love of English 3 speeds...

    Thanks for the link, looks like they are out of stock at the moment though. I will have to check back, great price.
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    Here's a link to some photos of the 2013 Toronto Vintage Bicycle Show.
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    Here are some photos of my Dunelt rat/city bike.
    Original cost $40.00 plus about $50.00 in upgrades.
    I tried it out as a path racer but found the bars uncomfortable so swapped them out for some modified wide bars to help negotiate curbs and streetcar tracks.
    Currently it's my everyday street bike.
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    Just a quick share, Last night my wife and I went to a screening of short films in the East Village in Manhattan (my stepson was in one of them, his first big-screen role!) I parked right outside the venue where loads of bikes were locked up, including a 1964 Sports in beautiful condition. After we admired it for a bit we went around the corner and sat ouside a bar for a drink as evening fell, watching scores of folks on bikes going downtown. Many of them were riding Citibikes, the popular new ride-share bikes. And yet, lots of folks went by on their white-tail vintage 3-speeds. It's always great to see so many of these reliable old machines in active duty around the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stove panini View Post
    I did, however, change the tires myself. Panaracer 650As! New brake pads, too.
    Where did you find Panaracer 37-590 tires? I have 650Bs on our French cyclotouriste tandem & I've been going with 650A Michelin World Tours for a similar (albeit stiffer) kind of ride on Nottingham 3-speeds.
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    I've run into a phenomena that I wonder if others have encountered. I have found that if I go fast enough, the front wheel can develop enough gyroscopic action to freeze in one plane. The first time this happened, I was gripping the handlebars fairly close to the stem. I was thrown off the bike at about 25 mph and got scraped up pretty good, but glad I didn't break any bones...

    The second time it happened I was gripping the bars normally. That gave me enough leverage to overcome the front wheel's desire to stay in one plane so I didn't fall down. But is scared me good (it took a month to heal up the earlier scrapes).

    This is really making me think that I have to be careful not to go too fast on this bike ('72 Raleigh Superbe), but it seems like it might also be solved by less mass in the wheel circumference. Right now I am using Sun CR-18s, with Sunlite tires. Would I be better off with those Specialized Trisports?? Anyone else run into this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salubrious View Post
    I've run into a phenomena that I wonder if others have encountered. I have found that if I go fast enough, the front wheel can develop enough gyroscopic action to freeze in one plane. The first time this happened, I was gripping the handlebars fairly close to the stem. I was thrown off the bike at about 25 mph and got scraped up pretty good, but glad I didn't break any bones...

    The second time it happened I was gripping the bars normally. That gave me enough leverage to overcome the front wheel's desire to stay in one plane so I didn't fall down. But is scared me good (it took a month to heal up the earlier scrapes).

    This is really making me think that I have to be careful not to go too fast on this bike ('72 Raleigh Superbe), but it seems like it might also be solved by less mass in the wheel circumference. Right now I am using Sun CR-18s, with Sunlite tires. Would I be better off with those Specialized Trisports?? Anyone else run into this?
    Check to make sure you have your front wheel in the forks properly. The adjusting cone should be on the left side of the bike. If you have it the other way around, it will/can seize up. Basically as you are riding you're tightening the cones, if it spins afterwards without you actually loosing the cones afterward it entirely possible you've done it enough to have ruined the some of the threads, but just enough threads remain to tighten to a point.

    One of the major quirks of old Raleighs.
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    ^^ the wheel spins fine and the bearings behave the same way as they did when I refurbished this bike 8 months ago. I've ridden it a lot- including the Lake Pepin 3-speed tour...

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    This does not sound normal, whether the rims are CR 18 or Westricks/Raleigh. Pull the front wheel, re-set the cone, and then re-set the wheel in the fork making sure everything is together correctly. The adjustable cone (with the flats) goes on the left/non-drive side of the bike for the reasons the previous poster mentioned. If necessary, open the cones and inspect the bearings. Inspect the tire and bead seating too.

    Once you establish that it is not the wheel or tire, check the fork itself for alignment and the headset for adjustment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Salubrious View Post
    I've run into a phenomena that I wonder if others have encountered. I have found that if I go fast enough, the front wheel can develop enough gyroscopic action to freeze in one plane. The first time this happened, I was gripping the handlebars fairly close to the stem. I was thrown off the bike at about 25 mph and got scraped up pretty good, but glad I didn't break any bones...

    The second time it happened I was gripping the bars normally. That gave me enough leverage to overcome the front wheel's desire to stay in one plane so I didn't fall down. But is scared me good (it took a month to heal up the earlier scrapes).

    This is really making me think that I have to be careful not to go too fast on this bike ('72 Raleigh Superbe), but it seems like it might also be solved by less mass in the wheel circumference. Right now I am using Sun CR-18s, with Sunlite tires. Would I be better off with those Specialized Trisports?? Anyone else run into this?
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