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arex 01-29-14 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by noglider (Post 16449564)
Sixty Fiver, thank you for this thread, once again.

No kidding...this thread is what made me decide to build up a Raleigh.

Amesja 01-29-14 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by arex (Post 16449812)
FWIW, my frame has a decal down by the BB that says (paraphrasing) "Designed in England - Assembled in America", and has the same brake cable eyelets shown.

FWIW Canida is in "America" -North America to be exact. So is Mexico. It's just not in the USA.

USA does not technically equal "America" although a lot of USAians seem to think that the two are the same thing.

gster 01-29-14 10:00 AM

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I've also got a 70's Sprite 10 speed (not my style) with the same routing. I should check to see where it was made. I had a look and it's made in England.http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=361952http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=361953http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=361954

smontanaro 01-29-14 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Amesja (Post 16449857)
FWIW Canida is in "America" -North America to be exact. So is Mexico. It's just not in the USA.

USA does not technically equal "America" although a lot of USAians seem to think that the two are the same thing.

Well, yeah, but we import cars from Detroit (at least according to the Chrysler ads), so you can understand how all us 'mericuns get confused about that sort of thing.

arex 01-29-14 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Amesja (Post 16449857)
FWIW Canida is in "America" -North America to be exact. So is Mexico. It's just not in the USA.

USA does not technically equal "America" although a lot of USAians seem to think that the two are the same thing.

Get a grip...I'm aware of all this. I was simply stating what was on the decal, nothing more.

dweenk 02-01-14 04:14 PM

Link to a Raleigh video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaxRQh03BOw

RosyRambler 02-01-14 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dweenk (Post 16459565)


Wow! Loved it! Delightfully informative. Makes me appreciate my Sports even more. Even if it's no where near the age of those bikes. Loved the ball bearing and spoke lacing guy's quick handwork.

JTTDF 02-03-14 06:27 PM

Brought a Raleigh "Riviera" home today.
 
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Hi All. What a marvelous resource you all have been to me. I am grateful to have found this forum and this thread in particular. I have fallen in love with the old Raleighs, largely due to this amazing thread. I found on eBay and paid what I hope is a ridiculously small sum for this bike. It appears to be a Sports with the name "Riviera" on the top tube and "Sports" nowhere to be found. The (dreaded TCW coaster brake) hub dates it to 1967. There's a Made in England decal on the down tube. Raleigh The All Steel Bicycle is on the Chainguard. #3823889 is stamped on the BB Shell. It appears in all ways to be a Sports, but nowhere does it say that. I'm just wondering what I have?

It is in marvelous original condition down to the lovely rear rack.

Pics on flicker:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1150250...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1150250...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1150250...n/photostream/
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/1150250...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1150250...n/photostream/

Thank you very much for anything you can provide about the Riviera model.

arex 02-03-14 06:40 PM

Nice!

dezzie 02-03-14 07:11 PM

I work for a bike recycling charity in the UK, we had someone donate an old raliegh last week, the name of the model was mostly worn away but began with an R, sounded very French like retroviseur or something along those lines, had a fitment on the rear frame alongside where the chain runs with 2 spare spokes alongside it clipped on with a welded on nipple, looked very trick I reckon maybe 40 plus years old, olive green colour, I know its vague but anyone have an idea what it is, its a road race bike with big skinny wheels.

Schwinnsta 02-06-14 02:01 PM

dezzie, post pictures.

Sixty Fiver 02-06-14 02:39 PM

I am getting a bit worried... 15 more posts and this thread will have hit 5000 posts and the incredible amount of content that has been added might crash the forum.

;)

I am thinking that with the mix of ice and snow and stretches of clear roads that I'll take my Raleigh 20 out today... it is rocking Marathon winter tyres so it should be gret out there and it is too cold to ride that fast.

Don Marco 02-06-14 06:50 PM

Speaking of Twenties, I recently got this off of a guy's sailboat in Annapolis where it had been living for some time. It's clearly a snotter, but rides nicely and everything works, save for the crumbling saddle. It's my first Twenty, and hopefully not my last... I'm sold.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3755/1...a54d1b83_b.jpg

dweenk 02-07-14 05:05 PM

I am sorry, but I can't find the "Are you looking for.." thread. Here it is:

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/bik/4323702335.html

arex 02-07-14 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dweenk (Post 16477001)
I am sorry, but I can't find the "Are you looking for.." thread. Here it is:

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/bik/4323702335.html

That looks a lot older than the '70s...

markk900 02-08-14 08:08 AM

Is someone on their way to buy that puppy? Awesome find and price is great (compared to my area).

clubman 02-08-14 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by arex (Post 16477040)
That looks a lot older than the '70s...

Reflectors on the pedals date it to the 70's, maybe late 60's.

Sixty Fiver 02-08-14 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by arex (Post 16477040)
That looks a lot older than the '70s...

Raleigh never changed much of anything except the decals on the DL 1 from day one until they stopped making them in the early 1980's.

That decal on the frame was used from 1960 - 1972 on the DL 1... if the pedals are original then it places it later on that timeline.

JTTDF 02-13-14 11:52 AM

'67 Raleigh S-22 "Riviera" got some love
 
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Hi All,

I posted before pics the other day when I picked this one up. After a few days of polishing, burnishing, and just general love, the bike has cleaned up really nice. I put on some Panaracer tires, and really had to monkey around with the fenders to get them to fit. The pedals and front hub were overhauled, everything else just got some oil. The bike rides great. Since the photos were taken some Koolstop pads have gone on the brakes.

My (very uneducated) guess is that the "Riviera" was produced under contract for a retailer somewhere? I've found reference to a few others, all dated 1967. Some were in Europe, some in the States. It certainly looks like an S22 Sports to me but maybe someone here knows better? The pedals are the old style rebuildable type, without reflectors. No pump pegs, but the rack seems to be original. I like that there is no contrasting white paint on the rear fender.

Notice the "Cateye" in the last photo!:)

Sixty Fiver 02-13-14 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JTTDF (Post 16492879)
Hi All,

I posted before pics the other day when I picked this one up. After a few days of polishing, burnishing, and just general love, the bike has cleaned up really nice. I put on some Panaracer tires, and really had to monkey around with the fenders to get them to fit. The pedals and front hub were overhauled, everything else just got some oil. The bike rides great. Since the photos were taken some Koolstop pads have gone on the brakes.

My (very uneducated) guess is that the "Riviera" was produced under contract for a retailer somewhere? I've found reference to a few others, all dated 1967. Some were in Europe, some in the States. It certainly looks like an S22 Sports to me but maybe someone here knows better? The pedals are the old style rebuildable type, without reflectors. No pump pegs, but the rack seems to be original. I like that there is no contrasting white paint on the rear fender.

Notice the "Cateye" in the last photo!:)

Lovely find... the British racing green is to Raleigh what red is to Ferrari.

I am not familiar with the Riviera designation but it could have very well been an export model based on the half guard... in the English speaking (that one with the funny accent) world Raleigh would not have needed to call it anything other than a Sports.

:)

Sixty Fiver 02-13-14 12:21 PM

Raleigh did produce bicycles for other companies like Eaton's of Canada but these were branded as Gliders and were a little different from their Raleigh cousins as they used a different chainwheel and fork crown but are every bit as nice... I see lots of these here as Eaton's sold a lot of them and had a long business relationship with Raleigh.

Raleigh was very protective and controlling of their key distributors and this is why some shops carried Raleigh and were guaranteed a certain amount of geography while other shops may have been authorized to sell Phillip's or Rudge... this actually made many of Raleigh's long term distributors / shops very upset as it was like Raleigh was competing with them.

JTTDF 02-13-14 01:10 PM

I have to echo arex and noglider here, Sixty Fiver. Thank you for this thread. I wouldn't have sought out and got the bike without it!

Sixty Fiver 02-13-14 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Marco (Post 16474201)
Speaking of Twenties, I recently got this off of a guy's sailboat in Annapolis where it had been living for some time. It's clearly a snotter, but rides nicely and everything works, save for the crumbling saddle. It's my first Twenty, and hopefully not my last... I'm sold.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3755/1...a54d1b83_b.jpg

I have to warn you that these little bikes can lead to serious addiction issues, we have 4 in our household and one more on the way... :)

Bicycle Addict 02-15-14 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 16493125)
I have to warn you that these little bikes can lead to serious addiction issues, we have 4 in our household and one more on the way... :)

Yes 65er they are addictive to the point where the variations of the R20 find their way in to the shed.
This is a Clarion . . can not find out much about them, it feels nice and stiff frame wise, I think it is 24tpi too, only possible problem is the BB cage seems to be 66mm wide? I will get the cranks off tomorrow and measure it with the cups out, I am hoping to see if it is non Raleigh threading.
Anyway here is a pic,
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=364454

I will also take a pic of it tomorrow against the R20, for a comparison.
Great thread 65er!

zukahn1 02-15-14 01:32 AM

WOW this thread has made the 200 mark and is going strong the English 3speed is a true classic better ones are still going after 50 years with only basic maintence. Last I checked the classic Raliegh/Phillips model from 1913 with minor changes is still in production in India and China passing the 100 year mark.


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