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Sixty Fiver 02-15-14 02:55 AM

five thousand posts !!!!

Ding ding !!!

sykerocker 02-15-14 05:46 AM

This has got to be one of the longest running posts in the forum. And lots of excellent information.

jonwvara 02-15-14 06:13 AM

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I posted about this in the "for trade" thread a few months back, but no response, so figured I'd mention it here. I have a wheelset from a 1975 (or so) Raleigh Sprite 27. Steel rims and hubs, chrome in near perfect condition, has the original 5-speed Maillard freewheel--a 14-30, I think--and tastefully small aluminum dork disk. I'd like to trade them for a set of 700C clincher wheels suitable for a Motobecane Grand Record of similar mid-70s vintage, ideally with someone nearby enough that we can meet to exchange wheels rather than shipping them.

Howard 02-15-14 07:36 AM

Guilty pleasure
 
I picked up a small 74 ladies Raleigh Sports last summer. It's in "indifferent" condition. Straight frame, and now all the parts are in place and all the bearings have been repacked.

Why the guilt? I'm using it as a bad weather hack for errands up to about 3-4 miles away. Lately in snowy conditions, when I just don't want to get the Hercules icked up.

Given that it's too small, I'm not tempted to go fast on ice and can plant both feet in a hurry. It rides quite well on slick surfaces. And let's face it, when the rims get icy, not many brakes work all that well.

wahoonc 02-15-14 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard (Post 16497749)
I picked up a small 74 ladies Raleigh Sports last summer. It's in "indifferent" condition. Straight frame, and now all the parts are in place and all the bearings have been repacked.

Why the guilt? I'm using it as a bad weather hack for errands up to about 3-4 miles away. Lately in snowy conditions, when I just don't want to get the Hercules icked up.

Given that it's too small, I'm not tempted to go fast on ice and can plant both feet in a hurry. It rides quite well on slick surfaces. And let's face it, when the rims get icy, not many brakes work all that well.

Nothing wrong with that, the Raleigh can take it, just do it a favor once the crappy weather is done and give it some TLC.

I have a 1970 Raleigh Sports Standard that did yeoman's duty in all kinds of weather and spent much of it's life outdoors locked up waiting for me to get out of work or school. Now it is living a semi-retired life as my beer hauler.

Aaron :)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7441/8...f7c0982f_z.jpg

noglider 02-15-14 12:43 PM

Howard, I'm too scared to ride rim brakes with steel rims when it's wet.

I put aluminum rims and a drum brake front hub on my Raleigh Twenty. I haven't tested it in bad weather yet, though. I expect it will do well. I don't take my Rudge Sports out in bad weather. It's very scary. I'm lucky I have lots of bikes.

sykerocker 02-15-14 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard (Post 16497749)
I picked up a small 74 ladies Raleigh Sports last summer. It's in "indifferent" condition. Straight frame, and now all the parts are in place and all the bearings have been repacked.

Why the guilt? I'm using it as a bad weather hack for errands up to about 3-4 miles away. Lately in snowy conditions, when I just don't want to get the Hercules icked up.

Given that it's too small, I'm not tempted to go fast on ice and can plant both feet in a hurry. It rides quite well on slick surfaces. And let's face it, when the rims get icy, not many brakes work all that well.

There are two brands of bikes that came with good enough finish to use as winter bikes: Schwinn and Raleigh. Of course, this includes (at minimum) weekly cleanup if being ridden in bad weather.

arex 02-15-14 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wahoonc (Post 16497916)
Nothing wrong with that, the Raleigh can take it, just do it a favor once the crappy weather is done and give it some TLC.

I have a 1970 Raleigh Sports Standard that did yeoman's duty in all kinds of weather and spent much of it's life outdoors locked up waiting for me to get out of work or school. Now it is living a semi-retired life as my beer hauler.

Aaron :)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7441/8...f7c0982f_z.jpg



You have good taste in beer.

wahoonc 02-15-14 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by noglider (Post 16498316)
Howard, I'm too scared to ride rim brakes with steel rims when it's wet.

I put aluminum rims and a drum brake front hub on my Raleigh Twenty. I haven't tested it in bad weather yet, though. I expect it will do well. I don't take my Rudge Sports out in bad weather. It's very scary. I'm lucky I have lots of bikes.

Done it for years, just have to plan ahead and have a bail out plan. Mine usually involves a nearby hedge, prefer privet or boxwood to pyracantha :eek: :D

Aaron :)

Howard 02-15-14 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wahoonc (Post 16499223)
Done it for years, just have to plan ahead and have a bail out plan. Mine usually involves a nearby hedge, prefer privet or boxwood to pyracantha :eek: :D

Aaron :)

Yeah, just know the limitations of the equipment and ride within those. Pushing the edges of the envelope is fine, but you gotta remember that out at the corner is where the stamp gets canceled.

Steel rims, in my experience, don't actually wear out. I kind of like that, because even though it takes a little longer in rain for the pads to get some grip, they never spray a fine mist of decaying alloy over the tires, brakes, and inside of the mudguards. I do have some CR18 rims I'm getting around to building up, so I'm not a total Luddite.

What a sweet riding bike the Sports is. Even the bad ones are good. :-)

Jawihan 02-16-14 07:34 AM

Aaron, Is there a front rack under that basket and if so, what type is it? It appears to fasten to the axle. I presume the basket is a Wald.
I have the same rear baskets on my Sports and I would like to add one on the front similar to yours.
Thanks
James

wahoonc 02-16-14 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jawihan (Post 16499990)
Aaron, Is there a front rack under that basket and if so, what type is it? It appears to fasten to the axle. I presume the basket is a Wald.
I have the same rear baskets on my Sports and I would like to add one on the front similar to yours.
Thanks
James

James,

That is the Wald 139 basket with a cargo net on it. Wald just came out with a Multi-fit front platform.

Aaron :)

Sixty Fiver 02-16-14 10:26 AM

Thought you would all appreciate this...

We had a very nice fellow come into the co-op yesterday and he was there to donate the contents of his old bike shop which he closed down more than 20 years ago and ran for decades before that... he said he was 86 and was winding things down and clearing up some stuff.

There was lots of interesting 80's stuff like anodized BMX parts, saddles, and things like cloth tape and other goodies but he had tons of old CCM parts and spokes still in their factory wrappers and boxes and said this was just the tip of the iceberg.

We talked for a good long while and he looked over some of the old CCM's we have been working on and he said, "I don't suppose anyone works on Sturmey Archer hubs anymore"... and our conversation went on and on after that as we both have a deep appreciation for these things. We agreed that the forged CCm one piece cranks are nigh indestructible and he has a bunch of those too.

Will be connecting again to look over other things he has that he could not move himself like parts cabinets and counters... and he said he has all kinds of SA stuff and parts that he did not think anyone would want.

My friend has his own CCM museum and might like a CCM parts cabinet and more documentation.

dweenk 02-16-14 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 16500301)
Thought you would all appreciate this...

We had a very nice fellow come into the co-op yesterday and he was there to donate the contents of his old bike shop which he closed down more than 20 years ago and ran for decades before that... he said he was 86 and was winding things down and clearing up some stuff.

There was lots of interesting 80's stuff like anodized BMX parts, saddles, and things like cloth tape and other goodies but he had tons of old CCM parts and spokes still in their factory wrappers and boxes and said this was just the tip of the iceberg.

We talked for a good long while and he looked over some of the old CCM's we have been working on and he said, "I don't suppose anyone works on Sturmey Archer hubs anymore"... and our conversation went on and on after that as we both have a deep appreciation for these things. We agreed that the forged CCm one piece cranks are nigh indestructible and he has a bunch of those too.

Will be connecting again to look over other things he has that he could not move himself like parts cabinets and counters... and he said he has all kinds of SA stuff and parts that he did not think anyone would want.

My friend has his own CCM museum and might like a CCM parts cabinet and more documentation.

My guess is that this gentleman is getting his affairs in order. I wish him well.

wahoonc 02-16-14 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 16500301)
Thought you would all appreciate this...

We had a very nice fellow come into the co-op yesterday and he was there to donate the contents of his old bike shop which he closed down more than 20 years ago and ran for decades before that... he said he was 86 and was winding things down and clearing up some stuff.

There was lots of interesting 80's stuff like anodized BMX parts, saddles, and things like cloth tape and other goodies but he had tons of old CCM parts and spokes still in their factory wrappers and boxes and said this was just the tip of the iceberg.

We talked for a good long while and he looked over some of the old CCM's we have been working on and he said, "I don't suppose anyone works on Sturmey Archer hubs anymore"... and our conversation went on and on after that as we both have a deep appreciation for these things. We agreed that the forged CCm one piece cranks are nigh indestructible and he has a bunch of those too.

Will be connecting again to look over other things he has that he could not move himself like parts cabinets and counters... and he said he has all kinds of SA stuff and parts that he did not think anyone would want.

My friend has his own CCM museum and might like a CCM parts cabinet and more documentation.

You are going to have to post an inventory of the S-A parts... lots of stuff is getting scarce, like the FW indicator rods.

Aaron :)

PalmettoUpstate 02-17-14 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 16473549)
I am getting a bit worried... 15 more posts and this thread will have hit 5000 posts and the incredible amount of content that has been added might crash the forum.

;)

I am thinking that with the mix of ice and snow and stretches of clear roads that I'll take my Raleigh 20 out today... it is rocking Marathon winter tyres so it should be gret out there and it is too cold to ride that fast.

I have been working on an index to this thread for quite a while. Unfortunately, as I parse and winnow the posts for formulating my concise entries my mind always wanders... Oh well, I meant to post said index @ 5K but that will have to be reconfigured...

PalmettoUpstate 02-17-14 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 16492936)
Lovely find... the British racing green is to Raleigh what red is to Ferrari.

:)

Trenchant observation; and a tip of the hat to the Late Great Jim Clark! (a Scotsman but still...)

PalmettoUpstate 02-17-14 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wahoonc (Post 16497916)
Nothing wrong with that, the Raleigh can take it, just do it a favor once the crappy weather is done and give it some TLC.

I have a 1970 Raleigh Sports Standard that did yeoman's duty in all kinds of weather and spent much of it's life outdoors locked up waiting for me to get out of work or school. Now it is living a semi-retired life as my beer hauler.

Aaron :)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7441/8...f7c0982f_z.jpg

That is some serious beer-retrieval equipment.

As a very, very light consumer of the olde "Celtic Ailment Curer" I have to tell you that if you can get your hands on a six-pak of Lagunitas "Suck" then do so asap.

Despite the indelicate "nom de guerre," --it is astounding.

But don't go there if you are a hop-o-phobe! LOL!

Velognome 02-17-14 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 16492936)
Lovely find... the British racing green is to Raleigh what red is to Ferrari.



:)

Lovely find indeed and British racing green on a Raleigh is special and a bit romantic but really isn't it more

" Black to a Raleigh is what red is to a Ferrari" ?

smontanaro 02-18-14 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate (Post 16504251)
I have been working on an index to this thread for quite a while...

I've always felt that discussion forums were bad when it came to this sort of thing. Other than making a thread "sticky" is there some way users can index content that is visible to other people?

Commando 02-22-14 06:27 AM

Speaking of trying to find specific information...

I've got a 70's Raleigh Superbe with 26x1 3/8 tyres. It's about time I replaced the tubes, they've collected quite a few patches over the last 17 years of riding. I know there's a difference between Schwinn and British 26x1 3/8, and I'm pretty sure a skinny MTB tube won't fit.
So, What's the best fit tubes for these tyres?

Sixty Fiver 02-22-14 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commando (Post 16517138)
Speaking of trying to find specific information...

I've got a 70's Raleigh Superbe with 26x1 3/8 tyres. It's about time I replaced the tubes, they've collected quite a few patches over the last 17 years of riding. I know there's a difference between Schwinn and British 26x1 3/8, and I'm pretty sure a skinny MTB tube won't fit.
So, What's the best fit tubes for these tyres?

Good bike shops should carry the right tubes.

JohnDThompson 02-22-14 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commando (Post 16517138)
I've got a 70's Raleigh Superbe with 26x1 3/8 tyres. It's about time I replaced the tubes, they've collected quite a few patches over the last 17 years of riding. I know there's a difference between Schwinn and British 26x1 3/8, and I'm pretty sure a skinny MTB tube won't fit.
So, What's the best fit tubes for these tyres?

There's a difference between Schwinn's 571mm bead seat diameter and Raleigh's 590mm bead seat diameter (650A) tires but tubes aren't so fussy. Any nominally 26" tube that's reasonably close to the tire width should work.

Salubrious 02-22-14 08:07 PM

Always ask for 26" x 1 3/8", rather than 26" x 1.375" and you will be OK. The latter is the Schwinn size, the former is the size for British 3-speeds. I know they look the same but that is one of those things that happens when humans are involved :)

Commando 02-23-14 03:51 AM

I haven't found a bike shop yet that had 26x1 3/8 on the shelf, so it's always been a bit of a guess what would fit best. Most bike shops around town (Adelaide, Aus) pretty much cater for modern bikes only.


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