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markk900 03-08-14 05:00 PM

Well, technically its a six speed with those two belt pulleys....

krtchp19 03-08-14 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GordoTrek (Post 16553479)
wow thats screaming deal...looks to be in better shape then most.. alot of surface rust that will clean up.. she looks like she's been ridden and enjoyed

no, she looks like she's been abandoned in someones back yard and in desperate need of some love!

Sixty Fiver 03-09-14 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by smontanaro (Post 16560795)
I don't know what it does, but it seems to have three gears. :-)

It is a lathe.

http://www.lathes.co.uk/rollo/page2.html

mnmkpedals 03-09-14 01:18 AM

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First, let me say this is an amazingly rich thread. Its been a huge help as I've taken the plunge to trying 3 speeds.

Second, I have a question about a bike I just bought, to see if any of you have come across the model or anything close? It's a 1955 women's 4 speed manufactured by F. Hopper and Co. (not branded Elswick Hopper like most others I've seen) and the model is called The President. I know from research and contact with someone in the UK that it's no doubt an export model, perhaps even custom color for the time, but either way there's no direct equivalent in the UK catalogues from that time.

My question is, quite simply, has anyone ever stumbled across one of these or anything like this? It was stripped of brakes and the 4 speed shifter, and if there's another out there, I'd love any info you might have about it. Two quick pics for now: the headbadge and the "President" model name that emerged on the seat tube as I've been removing the spray paint that had covered the bike. I can post shots of the full bike tomorrow with light.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367902http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367903

bwilli88 03-09-14 01:26 AM

That lathe used the SA hub for cutting screws. cool idea using the 3 speed and the 2 speed belt gave them an easy way to cut different thread pitches with a simple gear reduction.

PalmettoUpstate 03-09-14 09:00 PM

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This beaut and a matching 23" women's frame in green were procured from Forest City, NC back in December 2013.

Pretty close to perfection both...

All original with the B-72's and Dunlop dual stripe tires. Excellent paint; must have been kept indoors since being sold new in the Chicago area in 1970.

Has anyone tried this beer? It hit 74 degrees here today in the Palmetto Piedmont and I was doing some expansion on our Square foot garden patio...

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=368069

crank_addict 03-09-14 10:32 PM

Hey Sunshine, for the love of English 4 speeds, make yourself a clubman with this 50's Sun:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sun-Vitesse-...item461c1c244d

Salubrious 03-10-14 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GordoTrek (Post 16558363)
well, all i have is a bench vise, which didnt' want any part of it.. the tube was starting to ovalize...any other suggestions?

You might try a pipe tubing bender. I picked one up at Ace Hardware a few years back and it did the trick.

krtchp19 03-13-14 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by crank_addict (Post 16563974)
Hey Sunshine, for the love of English 4 speeds, make yourself a clubman with this 50's Sun:

Sun Vitesse Sports Cycle 1950's for Restoration Alloy Rims Sturmey Archer 4 SP | eBay


those postage fees!.........

krtchp19 03-13-14 11:34 PM

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So last year I took on a lot of personal 3 speed projects and one in particular I just fell in love with. It was a 1954 Hercules Tourist with a 3 speed Hercumatic hub. It was in pretty rough shape and I got it from the original owner, this 71 year old man that ordered it from a catalog from England when he was 12. He had had it hanging from his garage since the 70's. He sold it to me for 20 bucks and I told him I would bring it back to life and enjoy it. I let it sit since the start of this crazy Chicago winter and now that it's warming up I decided to start taking it apart to clean in. The bearings were actually pretty clean and it was just mostly grease and grime on the outside of the bike. I'm working on the wheels now and to my surprise they are not chrome they are actually aluminum. I like that it doesn't look perfect, it gives it that used character but when i wiped down some of the frame the paint actually still shines a really nice candy red.

There's a second bike I got from him also. It was his wife's 70's AMF road master 3 speed, it's not really my style but he wanted to get rid of them both to good homes. That one was actually in great shape so I put some air in the very good tires, adjusted the shift cable and gave it to one of my co-workers for her to do her errands on.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=368681

sailorbenjamin 03-14-14 07:11 AM

Hey, that's a Birmingham built bike. Nice change of pace from the usual Nottingham Raleigh clones.

Bledfor Days 03-14-14 03:06 PM

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In became the owner of a 1974 Raleigh Sport this afternoon. I was admiring a guys vintage BMW and he asked if I liked classic cars. I said no, pedal bikes and he pulled this out of his storage container. $125 later and I have a new project. The gear cable is broken right where the little chain goes into the hub. I don't know anything about English 3 speeds but this one is in great shape. It has Raleigh Record tires on it and a plastic Brooks saddle. Didn't know there was such a thing. I'm not sure if the little seat bag is Raleigh. It's plasticky too. I wonder if that little chain can be fixed on the gear cable?
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=368777 http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=368776

markk900 03-14-14 04:23 PM

That bag is original (so it seems) - one was on the Raleigh I bought my sister. And that chain is called the indicator rod and is readily available - getting it out just depends on where its broken.

You must now enter the church of Sheldon Brown and read all his stuff on 3-speeds, Raleighs, etc. You will gain much insight.

dweenk 03-14-14 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bledfor Days (Post 16578204)
In became the owner of a 1974 Raleigh Sport this afternoon. I was admiring a guys vintage BMW and he asked if I liked classic cars. I said no, pedal bikes and he pulled this out of his storage container. $125 later and I have a new project. The gear cable is broken right where the little chain goes into the hub. I don't know anything about English 3 speeds but this one is in great shape. It has Raleigh Record tires on it and a plastic Brooks saddle. Didn't know there was such a thing. I'm not sure if the little seat bag is Raleigh. It's plasticky too. I wonder if that little chain can be fixed on the gear cable?
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=368777 http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=368776

That is a nice find, and a bike for a taller rider. The bag and saddle seem to be original. Like markk900 said, Sheldon Brown (RIP) is the source, and Harris Cyclery has the parts too.

Bledfor Days 03-14-14 05:40 PM

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I've been in church a lot lately. Sturmey Archer hubs here I come. I'm 6'1" and it's just rideable for me. Some more top tube room would be nice. My daughter is eyeing it up so I'll take the saddle and bag off store them. A collector might be interested in them. A B-67 will look good on it.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=368804

wahoonc 03-14-14 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bledfor Days (Post 16578599)
I've been in church a lot lately. Sturmey Archer hubs here I come. I'm 6'1" and it's just rideable for me. Some more top tube room would be nice. My daughter is eyeing it up so I'll take the saddle and bag off store them. A collector might be interested in them. A B-67 will look good on it.

I am 6'-2" and have no problem riding most Raleigh Sports 21" or 23" if the seat post is long enough. The short cockpit doesn't bother me a bit. If you really want a magic carpet ride, look for a DL-1 Tourist. :D BTW they come in a 24" frame ;)

Aaron :)

krtchp19 03-15-14 12:26 AM

The bag is cool I have a similar one from the 60's but made in Japan I use. In my opinion that saddle is painful to ride I had one on my Raleigh single speed LTD that I immediately took off luckily I have an old B-66 (from my DL-1 ) and B72 (from my Sports) I can quickly put on there.
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Originally Posted by Bledfor Days (Post 16578599)
I've been in church a lot lately. Sturmey Archer hubs here I come. I'm 6'1" and it's just rideable for me. Some more top tube room would be nice. My daughter is eyeing it up so I'll take the saddle and bag off store them. A collector might be interested in them. A B-67 will look good on it.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=368804


krtchp19 03-15-14 12:33 AM

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I'm 5'9 and need to ride a 23 at least the 21 is too small for me cause I feel like a giant on one. I have a 21 Raleigh Sprite that I think looks amazing It just feels slightly small to me. maybe I just need a longer seat post.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=368858

Bledfor Days btw that is a B-72 on mine that would look good on yours as well
QUOTE=wahoonc;16578778]I am 6'-2" and have no problem riding most Raleigh Sports 21" or 23" if the seat post is long enough. The short cockpit doesn't bother me a bit. If you really want a magic carpet ride, look for a DL-1 Tourist. :D BTW they come in a 24" frame ;)

Aaron :)[/QUOTE]

Sorry for the 5 speed post in this 3 speed thread, but technically that is a Raleigh "Sports" frame on that bike...

zukahn1 03-15-14 12:47 AM

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...p;d=1394865101


Yes that is s a very cool bike but it is a medium small 21inch and you need a large 23Inch maybe even 24 with old schoole geometry.

krtchp19 03-15-14 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by zukahn1 (Post 16579353)
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...p;d=1394865101


Yes that is s a very cool bike but it is a medium small 21inch and you need a large 23Inch maybe even 24 with old schoole geometry.

My knees hit the handlebars!

Bledfor Days 03-15-14 10:43 AM

I spent some time cleaning the new Sports up and realized that the seat post clamp was reversed. I switched it and gained a couple of inches in the cockpit. Much better.

krtchp19 03-20-14 07:27 PM

Would anyone happen to have an extra stem/stem bolt for an early 70's raleigh they don't need, mine broke off.

Sixty Fiver 03-21-14 08:18 AM

Snagged this little gem for a friend on Tuesday...

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikepics/adrian20.jpg

Hooked him up with a mid fifties Sports last year and he is just the right size for my 1950 Raleigh Sports (drop bar), if he is interested.

Salubrious 03-21-14 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 16597991)
Snagged this little gem for a friend on Tuesday...

Sweet!

63_dorinte 03-21-14 02:53 PM

Finally got the hub issues sorted out so here is my franken-BSA

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps6ef0e84e.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps2ed8192b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps19678cc2.jpg

I don't really know what fixed the hub other than disassembly, adding grease, adjustment, and getting the brake shoes bedded-in (there was excess resistance and noise and it got hot while riding). The paint is in poor condition but the rust spots have been treated with vinegar and waxed and oiled. Crankset is from a Raleigh Sports; mudguards and chainguard are from a Triumph; front hub, chain, and pedals are Japanese; and :eek: the rims are French (Rigida).

From some pictures I have seen, my shift cable routing (along the downtube and chainstay) may be incorrect. I just routed it the same way I had seen on other 3-speeds previously. Is there a compelling reason to route it along the top and down the seatstay instead?

Anyway, it is comfortable and fun to cruise around town on :).


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