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    Quote Originally Posted by 63_dorinte View Post
    Finally got the hub issues sorted out so here is my franken-BSA

    I don't really know what fixed the hub other than disassembly, adding grease, adjustment, and getting the brake shoes bedded-in (there was excess resistance and noise and it got hot while riding). The paint is in poor condition but the rust spots have been treated with vinegar and waxed and oiled. Crankset is from a Raleigh Sports; mudguards and chainguard are from a Triumph; front hub, chain, and pedals are Japanese; and the rims are French (Rigida).

    From some pictures I have seen, my shift cable routing (along the downtube and chainstay) may be incorrect. I just routed it the same way I had seen on other 3-speeds previously. Is there a compelling reason to route it along the top and down the seatstay instead?

    Anyway, it is comfortable and fun to cruise around town on .
    That to my understanding is how you fix SA hubs

    The cable routing is OK. But you might think about using a pulley and a fulcrum stop for the cable at the front of the bike. You have less cable resistance so the hub shifts better. You can often find the fulcrum stops and the pulleys at donation LBSs.

    Tradition is that the pulley is then mounted just below the seat. With a BSA-badged frame that is how I would do it. They ride a lot better that way

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    This followed me home a few weeks ago and is going to be my daily ride. I have put some elbow grease into it, added a new Brooks B33 with matching grips, a Sackville Baggins case, new Michelin tires and installed the chain case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salubrious
    The cable routing is OK. But you might think about using a pulley and a fulcrum stop for the cable at the front of the bike.
    Thanks. It may be hard to see in the photos, but I do have a fulcrum stop on the down tube and a pulley at the bottom bracket. Shifts great.


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    ^^ That works good!

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    I'm thinking, if I ever get around to it (where did I store all the round tuits?), I'll do some experiments with increasing the reach on my three-speed. The short cockpit does bother me. I have a set of those triathlon add-ons that let you rest on your elbows. Wouldn't it be a scream to add those to the original handlebars of the Sports?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 63_dorinte View Post
    Thanks. It may be hard to see in the photos, but I do have a fulcrum stop on the down tube and a pulley at the bottom bracket. Shifts great.
    The one problem with this routing is that the cable can sometimes snag on your shoe; this doesn't happen if it is routed along the top tube and down the seat stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noglider View Post
    I'm thinking, if I ever get around to it (where did I store all the round tuits?), I'll do some experiments with increasing the reach on my three-speed. The short cockpit does bother me. I have a set of those triathlon add-ons that let you rest on your elbows. Wouldn't it be a scream to add those to the original handlebars of the Sports?
    I have seen that done on the big upright city bikes the Dutch ride, it usually shows up near the coast where they apparently get some pretty substantial headwinds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salubrious View Post
    Sweet!
    It just needed to have 40 years of dust wiped off of it and be given a few sips of oil... we swapped the tyres and brake pads as the tyres had sat flat for so long the bead had deformed and would not sit on the rim.

    Condition wise it was 9.5 / 10 as it had a few small scuff marks on it.

    We will probably lace new alloy rims to it to further improve the braking and expand the tyre options so higher psi tyres can be used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wahoonc View Post
    I have seen that done on the big upright city bikes the Dutch ride, it usually shows up near the coast where they apparently get some pretty substantial headwinds.

    Aaron
    How far inland are you? If you haven't felt a coastal wind, you may not know how tough they are. We get them in the city, especially in the winter and throughout March. Sometimes, I have to ride leaning to the side just to ride in a straight path. A Dutch bike with aero bars probably looks silly, but it makes sense if you're riding into one of those winds. I'm glad some people thought of it.
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    65er what tires do you like for the Twenty? I meant to ask rhm about the Panaracer tires he just received. I don't know if he's ridden them. And don't you think your friend's Twenty should get a front brake replacement, such as canti or hub brake? I don't think good pads plus alloy rim are enough. They weren't enough for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Bauserman View Post
    This followed me home a few weeks ago and is going to be my daily ride. I have put some elbow grease into it, added a new Brooks B33 with matching grips, a Sackville Baggins case, new Michelin tires and installed the chain case.
    Man, that looks like quite the smart bike you got! Like how the saddlebag matches the paint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noglider View Post
    How far inland are you? If you haven't felt a coastal wind, you may not know how tough they are. We get them in the city, especially in the winter and throughout March. Sometimes, I have to ride leaning to the side just to ride in a straight path. A Dutch bike with aero bars probably looks silly, but it makes sense if you're riding into one of those winds. I'm glad some people thought of it.
    Roughly 95 miles inland, however I have spent time at the coast in NC, typically the area around Wilmington, NC. Because of the shape of the NC coast we don't seem to get the high winds as much as places like the Outer Banks of NC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adventurepdx View Post
    Man, that looks like quite the smart bike you got! Like how the saddlebag matches the paint.
    I forgot to mention it is a Pashley Prospero. The paint had some scratches and since Pashley is still in business making bikes; I went to their website, got their support email, emailed them asking for the color code of the paint and within twenty-four hours I had a response with the color code (RAL 6009) which made it easy to get a small container of exactly the right color.

    The whole setup works real well the Brooks honey saddle and grips with the Rivendell Sackville bag with honey leather trim on green canvas matching the Regency Green on the bike.
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    I don't worry about snagging my shoe on the cable. However, the top mounted pulley ought to help keep the shifting happy when the axle changes position in the dropout.

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    Howard is right. Every time you take the wheel out and put it back in, you have to readjust the gears if the cable is on the bottom. Not so if it's on the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
    The one problem with this routing is that the cable can sometimes snag on your shoe; this doesn't happen if it is routed along the top tube and down the seat stay.
    Thanks, that kinda makes sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Howard
    I don't worry about snagging my shoe on the cable. However, the top mounted pulley ought to help keep the shifting happy when the axle changes position in the dropout.
    Thanks, that makes sense also. I will keep my eyes open for a 1" fulcrum clamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailorbenjamin View Post
    Hey, that's a Birmingham built bike. Nice change of pace from the usual Nottingham Raleigh clones.
    +1 I like seeing other than Nottingham bicycles in this thread too. Unfortunately, the Nottingham stuff is so ubiquitous, it nearly owns this thread. With that stated, I have a Hercules Lion very similar to that which krtchp19 has, but in better condition. I've fixed some of the things that were wrong on the bike since the pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by photogravity View Post
    +1 I like seeing other than Nottingham bicycles in this thread too. Unfortunately, the Nottingham stuff is so ubiquitous, it nearly owns this thread. With that stated, I have a Hercules Lion very similar to that which krtchp19 has, but in better condition. I've fixed some of the things that were wrong on the bike since the pictures.
    Yea my bike was not in the best cosmetic shape but I have 90% taken it apart and cleaned it. I will start the rebuild as soon as it gets warmer in this crazy chicago never ending winter town. I really wish my chain guard was in better shape with the full lion but for 20 bucks its not a big deal and ill still enjoy riding it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krtchp19 View Post
    Yea my bike was not in the best cosmetic shape but I have 90% taken it apart and cleaned it. I will start the rebuild as soon as it gets warmer in this crazy chicago never ending winter town. I really wish my chain guard was in better shape with the full lion but for 20 bucks its not a big deal and ill still enjoy riding it.
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    Found this near my home in the states wish I could be there to get it.

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    Does this look like it might be a three speed to you fellows? BritishBike.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by BGBeck View Post
    Does this look like it might be a three speed to you fellows? BritishBike.jpg
    I don't see a shifter anywhere, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't have one.

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    I do see a coaster brake arm on the back, but still could be geared. And this gives a whole new meaning to trigger shifting....on the down tube no less.

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    I don't think that bike has a three speed hub (since I see neither quadrant shifter or trigger cable), if that's the question; but it's a roadster, so three speed hub or not it is definitely the kind of bike we discuss here. I give it a pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGBeck View Post
    Does this look like it might be a three speed to you fellows? BritishBike.jpg
    With everything else that fellow had on his mind, I don't think shifting gears was at the top of his list.
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