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Old 02-23-10, 09:29 PM
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Congrats! You're gonna love that bike
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All right, I wouldn't qualify these as "good" pictures, but I'm waiting for a flash to come in the mail for my 24.6 megapixel DSLR. Until then, this darn point and shoot will have to do.



















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That's all for now! I'm going to look at what the serial number really is.

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That bike does look extremely clean. Amazing it was still available. Nice catch!
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Wow! That is nice. Well worth the asking price, IMO.
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Hmm, so how to put this nicely? These brakes flat out suck. There's no way I can stop going downhill even if I don't have the bike loaded up. The pads must be the originals or something.

So, should I immediately upgrade to some dual pivot's? Or should I just get some new pads for now? If I were to upgrade the brakes, which are the best? The Tektro R530 are about $50 and they come in black. It would look nice to have black calipers. What do you guys suggest?

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Usually, I would say change the brake shoes, but I know those brakes, and yeah, they're not good. I personally prefer single-pivot brakes to dual-pivots, but I'm sure you'll like the Tektros. The price is great, and they'll look good.

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Nice catch! I think the black Tektos would be a good upgrade.
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Collin,

I followed this thread from my Palm in airports yesterday so I could not see any pictures nor respond. Great find! Your "new" C-Dale is a beauty!

Here's my 2 cents on the brakes: Try centerpulls. If you don't have a pair of DiaComps I'll be glad to send you some. If you like the way they work, save your dimes and upgrade to Paul Centerpulls. I understand they work really well and and I see they now come in black as well as "natural" aluminum. They should solve any issues with wider tires and fenders.

Best of luck with your new C-Dale--- I love mine (both early 21st century models)!



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in general, on your local craigslist at any given time, there is someone selling 'shimano dual pivot brakes' for $20. i'd even wager a c+v'r who lives close to you probably has a set.

good purchase, i think. the bike looks great. you'll really love it.
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Awesome find. Train station! Half step plus Granny (I think that's a 48/44/30 combo, yes?)!

OK, I know everyone hates those DiaCompe 500's, but...they fit, they're on the bike, and they actually will work pretty well with a set of KoolStop pads. If you move to the TekTro's or some other brand of brake in the future, the KoolStops will still fit and provide even better stopping power.

Also, I'm trying to figure out the freewheel- is it a five speed? If so, pretty easy to upgrade to a wide range 7 speed since the frame has 126 spacing.

I have that same Deore combo on my '86 ST daily rider- it's bulletproof!
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Excellent deal.
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
Collin,

I followed this thread from my Palm in airports yesterday so I could not see any pictures nor respond. Great find! Your "new" C-Dale is a beauty!

Here's my 2 cents on the brakes: Try centerpulls. If you don't have a pair of DiaComps I'll be glad to send you some. If you like the way they work, save your dimes and upgrade to Paul Centerpulls. I understand they work really well and and I see they now come in black as well as "natural" aluminum. They should solve any issues with wider tires and fenders.

Best of luck with your new C-Dale--- I love mine (both early 21st century models)!



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Were you on a Palm Pre' by any chance? I love mine. :-)

Okay, where to start? How would I attach the center-pull's to my bike? Will these mount with the usual mounting I have? If so, I think I'd like to try some. I'll send you a PM about your offer. Thanks a bunch!

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Originally Posted by rccardr
Awesome find. Train station! Half step plus Granny (I think that's a 48/44/30 combo, yes?)!

OK, I know everyone hates those DiaCompe 500's, but...they fit, they're on the bike, and they actually will work pretty well with a set of KoolStop pads. If you move to the TekTro's or some other brand of brake in the future, the KoolStops will still fit and provide even better stopping power.

Also, I'm trying to figure out the freewheel- is it a five speed? If so, pretty easy to upgrade to a wide range 7 speed since the frame has 126 spacing.

I have that same Deore combo on my '86 ST daily rider- it's bulletproof!
Yep, it's a Sugino GP130 crankset with 30, 44, 48 teeth. Interesting. I don't really understand it, but it's pretty.

Freewheel is a 6 speed with indexed 6 speed barcon shifters. I think I'll leave that alone as there is literally zero wear on any of the teeth. There's no wear on anything, in fact. Makes me suspicious, actually.

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pastorbob....you're killing me. Those brakes cost more than I paid for the entire bike! They're a work of art, though. Beautiful.

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Originally Posted by Collin2424
Were you on a Palm Pre' by any chance? I love mine. :-)

Okay, where to start? How would I attach the center-pull's to my bike? Will these mount with the usual mounting I have? If so, I think I'd like to try some. I'll send you a PM about your offer. Thanks a bunch!

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pastorbob....you're killing me. Those brakes cost more than I paid for the entire bike! They're a work of art, though. Beautiful.

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A Palm TX, so a different animal.

I realize they are expensive but I've heard that Paul Racers possibly stop as well as cantilevers. Obviously something to save up for or ask for next Christmas.

Measure the reach of your existing calipers and I'll see what kind of DiaComp centerpulls I have. It looks as if your existing calipers are nutted, so the DiaComps should mount with no problems. You will also need a front cable hanger. It looks as if you have a built in one for the rear.
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Thank you kind Sir. I will measure reach when I get home.

As for the serial number, it was correct - 23062088010. Are you guys sure the headbadge is not from that era? Maybe this suggests a repaint?

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Originally Posted by Collin2424
Yep, it's a Sugino GP130 crankset with 30, 44, 48 teeth. Interesting. I don't really understand it, but it's pretty.
Nice bike! The crankset is using half-step gearing which means you shift the front to change 1 gear or the rear to shift 2. Ie, shifting the front changes the gearing by about 1/2 the amount as shifting the rear. The 30 ring is just a granny gear and you probably won't need it much. Half-step gearing has a different feel than normal but it's actually quite nice once you get used to it.
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Originally Posted by Iowegian
Nice bike! The crankset is using half-step gearing which means you shift the front to change 1 gear or the rear to shift 2. Ie, shifting the front changes the gearing by about 1/2 the amount as shifting the rear. The 30 ring is just a granny gear and you probably won't need it much. Half-step gearing has a different feel than normal but it's actually quite nice once you get used to it.
Ah, well that makes perfect sense then. That's kind of cool! Maybe you can answer this question - if I wanted to return to the original downtube shifters, are all of them three ring compatible up front? This isn't any kind of fancy longer-pull derailleur, right? I can get just normal 6 speed indexed Shimano downtube shifters?

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Originally Posted by Collin2424
Thank you kind Sir. I will measure reach when I get home.

As for the serial number, it was correct - 23062088010. Are you guys sure the headbadge is not from that era? Maybe this suggests a repaint?

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It's an 88. Headbadge looks fine. Those were used including and up to 1989. Great looking bike! (I'd go with Shimano Super SLRs btw)
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Originally Posted by EjustE
It's an 88. Headbadge looks fine. Those were used including and up to 1989. Great looking bike! (I'd go with Shimano Super SLRs btw)
So we're certain that it's a 1988 model, or it was manufactured in 88? If it was the 10th bike manufactured, why would it be made halfway through the year in 1988? Just curious.

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Originally Posted by Collin2424
So we're certain that it's a 1988 model, or it was manufactured in 88? If it was the 10th bike manufactured, why would it be made halfway through the year in 1988? Just curious.

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it was the 10th frame build that day (June 20th, 1998) not the year...
23 (size) 062088 (date) 010 (sequence of frame build that day)

(btw, still interesting that the frame size is in inches and not cm like other cannondales...)
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Cannondale 1988 ST400

Nice bike you love it, I picked one a few years ago, had it repainted and upgraded the components, really a great riding bike. Since the pictures I have changed out the handlebars for some drops. Also your headbadge is just like mine.
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Nice score. Decent price as well for such a clean bike.

I paid $250 for my 95 with a hop in the back wheel.

I didn't realize Cannondale ever put a halfstep crank on the bikes. That's cool! I have a 95 and 98 and the gearing sucked. 44-32-22 . The 98 came with 42 32 22! Yeah its a truck but 42?!?!?! Swapped a 48-36-26 and much happier.
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(btw, still interesting that the frame size is in inches and not cm like other cannondales...)
Yes, it is odd, but that's how they did it for 86 through 89. Touring frames were all marked in inches (like the 27" wheels) and road frames in cm (like 700c wheels). Go figure.

But better than just AA/BB/CC for 83-4-5, with no frame sizing indicated.

Then they went to that system for a few years where the first number was a code for the rear spacing. Even stranger.
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