View Poll Results: Should Collin buy this Prelude or this Motobecane Grand Touring?
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POLL - Should Collin buy this Prelude or this Motobecane Grand Touring?
02-26-10, 08:57 PM
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POLL - Should Collin buy this Prelude or this Motobecane Grand Touring?
Really nice Schwinn Prelude with Columbus Tenax lugged steel frame and fork size 57cm/57cm fits ~around 5'10" +/- depending on your build. Build date 286th day of 1986 if it matters to you. Nice horizontal dropouts, Suntour Cyclone front deraileur and Suntour Accushift rear. 12 speed with Suntour doun tube shifters, Sakae cranks and bars and Diacompe brake levers and calipers. Tires, bar tape and hoods are new. Wheels are Wienmann aluminum rims with Schwinn approved (Normandy) hubs. Saddle is a Suede turbo. Ready to ride and only $225.00 obo.
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this Motobecane Grand Touring bike. 58cm frame and a 83cm standover. 100% original parts and vintage. Straight aluminum Rigida wheels on Normandy High flange hubs.
Just $150.
CHOOSE ONE AND VOTE
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this Motobecane Grand Touring bike. 58cm frame and a 83cm standover. 100% original parts and vintage. Straight aluminum Rigida wheels on Normandy High flange hubs.
Just $150.
CHOOSE ONE AND VOTE
02-26-10, 09:03 PM
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Really nice Schwinn Prelude with Columbus Tenax lugged steel frame and fork size 57cm/57cm fits ~around 5'10" +/- depending on your build. Build date 286th day of 1986 if it matters to you. Nice horizontal dropouts, Suntour Cyclone front deraileur and Suntour Accushift rear. 12 speed with Suntour doun tube shifters, Sakae cranks and bars and Diacompe brake levers and calipers. Tires, bar tape and hoods are new. Wheels are Wienmann aluminum rims with Schwinn approved (Normandy) hubs. Saddle is a Suede turbo. Ready to ride and only $225.00 obo.
vs.
this Motobecane Grand Touring bike. 58cm frame and a 83cm standover. 100% original parts and vintage. Straight aluminum Rigida wheels on Normandy High flange hubs.
Just $150.
CHOOSE ONE AND VOTE
vs.
this Motobecane Grand Touring bike. 58cm frame and a 83cm standover. 100% original parts and vintage. Straight aluminum Rigida wheels on Normandy High flange hubs.
Just $150.
CHOOSE ONE AND VOTE
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02-26-10, 09:04 PM
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Personally, I'd go Moto, but only if it has English threading.
02-26-10, 09:10 PM
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I voted for the Moto (& admit I'm biased). Schwinn is nice but in IMO the Moto has more class and you will appreciate it more and more as time goes by.
02-26-10, 09:14 PM
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Length and info in the text seems a bit biased, though I assume it is the CL text that was copy and pasted. Didn't he just post something about having his Moto GR stolen a few months ago? Regardless of having an arguably better bike in the Prelude, I think he will always think about letting the replacement slip through his fingers. I voted for the Moto.
02-26-10, 09:22 PM
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Hi beech333 - Yes it's pasted CL text and no, the stolen Motobecane Grand Touring was from this OTHER THREAD from cave12man in Philly. Collin is on the West coast - I don't think the thief could have made it there due to the blizzard in Philly.
02-26-10, 09:24 PM
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I know the Schwinn is a better all-around bike but to me, the Moto's are just so classic.
It just happens that I'm restoring a Grand Touring for a flip, AS WELL AS a Greeneville built Tenax Schwinn Premis right now, and if I kept one, it would be the Moto.
It just happens that I'm restoring a Grand Touring for a flip, AS WELL AS a Greeneville built Tenax Schwinn Premis right now, and if I kept one, it would be the Moto.
02-26-10, 09:34 PM
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For me? the Motobecane. For a friend that doesn't work on bikes- the Schwinn.
02-26-10, 09:49 PM
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Schwinn.
#1. Schwinn doesn't have that kooky, high-normal Suntour FD.
#2. The Accushift RD will undoubtedly shift better then butter, while the Vx is hard to upshift (shifts as would a truck, IMO).
#3: Those racheting SunTour shifters are a joke. I don't know why people like them. They make it even harder to shift the Vx RD with any reasonable accuracy.
#4: Schwinn has sidepulls, which are less fiddly to adjust then centerpulls. Neither do they require half a dozen mechanics' tricks to reduce sponginess.
#5: Somehow, the slightly more relaxed geometry of the Schwinn looks more inviting then that steep headtube and minimal rake/high trail of the Moto.
#6: Waterbottle braze-ons. 'Nuff said.
#7: Rings for the Schwinn's crankset should be easy enough to get. Replacement rings for the Moto will never look right unless you aim for the same period of those NR-esque, early 600 cranks (and that's just a pain).
#8: He doesn't have to go hunting for top tube cable clips which have disappeared off the Moto.
The only thing that I particularly dislike on the Schwinn happens to be the one thing that I distinctly like about the Motobecane though - the seatstay end caps. The Moto's are beautiful. The Schwinn looks as if it got its stay caps from the reject bin.
This is all provided that the seatpost and stem on either aren't stuck. Dealbreaker if either has a stuck post or stem.
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#1. Schwinn doesn't have that kooky, high-normal Suntour FD.
#2. The Accushift RD will undoubtedly shift better then butter, while the Vx is hard to upshift (shifts as would a truck, IMO).
#3: Those racheting SunTour shifters are a joke. I don't know why people like them. They make it even harder to shift the Vx RD with any reasonable accuracy.
#4: Schwinn has sidepulls, which are less fiddly to adjust then centerpulls. Neither do they require half a dozen mechanics' tricks to reduce sponginess.
#5: Somehow, the slightly more relaxed geometry of the Schwinn looks more inviting then that steep headtube and minimal rake/high trail of the Moto.
#6: Waterbottle braze-ons. 'Nuff said.
#7: Rings for the Schwinn's crankset should be easy enough to get. Replacement rings for the Moto will never look right unless you aim for the same period of those NR-esque, early 600 cranks (and that's just a pain).
#8: He doesn't have to go hunting for top tube cable clips which have disappeared off the Moto.
The only thing that I particularly dislike on the Schwinn happens to be the one thing that I distinctly like about the Motobecane though - the seatstay end caps. The Moto's are beautiful. The Schwinn looks as if it got its stay caps from the reject bin.
This is all provided that the seatpost and stem on either aren't stuck. Dealbreaker if either has a stuck post or stem.
-Kurt
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02-26-10, 10:02 PM
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+1 To Kurt's comments. I have had two 1986 Preludes this year. They were nice bikes.
02-26-10, 10:18 PM
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02-26-10, 10:26 PM
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Have to agree with Kurt on this one. I actually have a prelude from the same year and it make a great long distance bike. I guess the question is what does Collin want to do with it?
02-26-10, 10:31 PM
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No poll is complete with an "All of the above" option.
02-26-10, 10:34 PM
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The Schwinn. Why? It's not French.
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02-26-10, 10:39 PM
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02-26-10, 11:04 PM
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You gonna eat that?
I just picked up an '87 Prelude and it is indeed a sweet ride. So far I'm into the Prelude for $65.
The one you're looking at isn't worth $75 more than the Moto; the Moto is a better deal.
The one you're looking at isn't worth $75 more than the Moto; the Moto is a better deal.
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02-27-10, 07:59 AM
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For the price of the Prelude he could have those sweet Paul centerpulls for his Cannondale!
BTW, I voted for the Motobecane because it was slightly lagging in the voting. I don't want to make the decision any easier for him.
BTW, I voted for the Motobecane because it was slightly lagging in the voting. I don't want to make the decision any easier for him.
02-27-10, 08:08 AM
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I agree with the Moto crowd. preludes come and go but a nice Motobecane is a great find. I don't recall how I saw it yesterday but I had seriously considered it for a few minutes. it was just too far away.
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02-27-10, 09:29 AM
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I have owned a Moto Grand Jubilee and a Prelude. Do not underate the ride of a Tenax Schwinn. Great bike. The Moto looked classier, but overall ride quality went to the Schwinn.
02-27-10, 09:39 AM
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BOTH, obviously. Event together, they'd cost less than a new hybrid at the LBS.
If this is a Sophie's choice type of deal, I'd buy the Moto.
If this is a Sophie's choice type of deal, I'd buy the Moto.
02-27-10, 09:43 AM
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Can anyone tell us what year that Moto is?
The lack of braze-on cable guides leads me to guess it is pre-74 but I'm not sure.
The lack of braze-on cable guides leads me to guess it is pre-74 but I'm not sure.
02-27-10, 09:55 AM
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Another think to consider in the Prelude vs Moto equation is 700c vs 27 inch tires
02-27-10, 12:26 PM
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Here I am! Quietly trying to wrap up some paperwork for a new job I start next week, but now that's out the window. Enough with this tax form crap, it's time to chat bikes. My you are all up early on Saturday mornings. I guess everyone is three hours ahead of me.
So oddly enough, the Moto guy just called me. He had a buyer set in stone this morning that flaked on him. I chatted with the Prelude guy last night and he still has it. This choice is TOUGH. The Prelude is ahead of the Moto by one vote right now. Anyone care to swing that? :-)
Maybe it would help if I gave some insight as to what I want in this bike and what I already have in other bikes. I just bought a Cannondale ST600 last week for my commuter bike/touring bike. I have a CAAD9 fully-equipped with Dura Ace 7800 for my "go fast" bike. I have a KHS Aero Comp with 9spd Ultegra STI and Reynolds 853 because I paid $250 for it in BRAND NEW condition. That was worth the three hour drive, by the way. So, what need am I left with? Well other than my addiction to bikes, I'd really like to have an "around town" bike. I know how stupid that sounds, but any of the above three bikes I mentioned will instantly get stolen around here. It's not a bad neighborhood, it's just that people are bike crazy (me included).
So, I'm looking for minimal maintenance, sort of a cool factor, maybe turn some heads but not get stolen and lastly, a good deal. Unfortunately, I really think both bikes fit into that category.
Sadly, I'm sort of leaning towards the Moto. It's so classic and vintage and while the Schwinn is too, I'm just drawn to the Moto. I can't explain that though.
I've got a date (lol) with the Moto guy at noon, which is in an hour and a half. Got to finish this new-hire paperwork, but I'll be refreshing this page say, every 10 seconds.
You guys are frickin' awesome, by the way.
-Collin-
So oddly enough, the Moto guy just called me. He had a buyer set in stone this morning that flaked on him. I chatted with the Prelude guy last night and he still has it. This choice is TOUGH. The Prelude is ahead of the Moto by one vote right now. Anyone care to swing that? :-)
Maybe it would help if I gave some insight as to what I want in this bike and what I already have in other bikes. I just bought a Cannondale ST600 last week for my commuter bike/touring bike. I have a CAAD9 fully-equipped with Dura Ace 7800 for my "go fast" bike. I have a KHS Aero Comp with 9spd Ultegra STI and Reynolds 853 because I paid $250 for it in BRAND NEW condition. That was worth the three hour drive, by the way. So, what need am I left with? Well other than my addiction to bikes, I'd really like to have an "around town" bike. I know how stupid that sounds, but any of the above three bikes I mentioned will instantly get stolen around here. It's not a bad neighborhood, it's just that people are bike crazy (me included).
So, I'm looking for minimal maintenance, sort of a cool factor, maybe turn some heads but not get stolen and lastly, a good deal. Unfortunately, I really think both bikes fit into that category.
Sadly, I'm sort of leaning towards the Moto. It's so classic and vintage and while the Schwinn is too, I'm just drawn to the Moto. I can't explain that though.
I've got a date (lol) with the Moto guy at noon, which is in an hour and a half. Got to finish this new-hire paperwork, but I'll be refreshing this page say, every 10 seconds.
You guys are frickin' awesome, by the way.
-Collin-