Brooks saddles
04-14-10, 04:44 AM
#26
Senior Member
my attempt
previously mentioned here
I used a home made form. Step by step here so it takes longer for a one off.
previously mentioned here
I used a home made form. Step by step here so it takes longer for a one off.
04-14-10, 11:57 AM
#27
Full Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 469
Bikes: Lotus Odyssey - Shogun 400 - '75 Raleigh Tourist - Raleigh Grand Prix - Gitane Tour de France- Schwinn Le Tour - Univega Maxima Sport (winter bike) Trek 950
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
5 Posts
FWIW on the Boston CL there is someone doing this as a business. Look pretty good.
04-14-10, 12:30 PM
#29
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose (Willow Glen) Ca
Posts: 9,846
Bikes: Kirk Custom JK Special, '84 Team Miyata,(dura ace old school) 80?? SR Semi-Pro 600 Arabesque
Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2338 Post(s)
Liked 2,822 Times
in
1,541 Posts
very cool and nice workmanship
did you copy the pattern from the old saddle?
did you copy the pattern from the old saddle?
__________________
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)
04-14-10, 12:50 PM
#30
multimodal commuter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NJ, NYC, LI
Posts: 19,808
Bikes: 1940s Fothergill, 1959 Allegro Special, 1963? Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, Lambert 'Clubman', 1974 Fuji "the Ace", 1976 Holdsworth 650b conversion rando bike, 1983 Trek 720 tourer, 1984 Counterpoint Opus II, 1993 Basso Gap, 2010 Downtube 8h, and...
Mentioned: 584 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1908 Post(s)
Liked 574 Times
in
339 Posts
Yeah, totally cool. I've been wanting to do this, but haven't yet found a source for the leather. One of the many disadvantages of living in the sub-sub-suburbs.
04-14-10, 02:13 PM
#32
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: West of St. Louis
Posts: 864
Bikes: (3) 1970's Raleigh Sports, (1) 1968 Robin Hood 3 speed, 1974 Raleigh Grand Prix, 1976 Raleigh Grand Prix, 1969 Peugeot UO-18, 1971 Peugeot UO-08, 1980 Giant road bike, 1954 Humber, 1940ish Hercules Popular, 1963 Dunelt, 2007 Trek 3700 mountain bike
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
4 Posts
Truly inspiring post. I have an old B72 as well as a French saddle that could use new coverings. I assume you used the old leather for a pattern.
Was it difficult to remove from the frame and flatten it?
Was it difficult to remove from the frame and flatten it?
04-14-10, 02:26 PM
#33
FBoD Member at Large
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Woodbury, MN
Posts: 6,094
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 30 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times
in
7 Posts
+1 Although one could argue that this is no different than VeloCals doing graphics...in that case you're restoring a bike, in this case you'd be restoring a saddle? I dunno. I wouldn't do it.
04-14-10, 02:48 PM
#34
Birotate Charioteer
Do NOT do this. Brooks is a business that is alive and well. They will NOT look kindly on your use of their trademark. I guarantee that.
Brooks, however, has refurbished their own saddles in the past, might be willing to do so in the near future, and in any case owns and uses the same trademark they have been identified with for a century. I'd be very careful about using their logo or trademarked material. It's not worth losing one's house over.
Their lawyers are as hungry as those anywhere else....
Besides which, as a fine instrument maker, I'd be *mighty cheesed* if someone used my logo and identity to represent their work.
Corey K
04-14-10, 08:08 PM
#35
)) <> ((
it is completely like replication decals. there is a bike that six jours made that he added "herse" decals too. big deal. hes not opening a business selling rene herses.
04-15-10, 02:55 PM
#36
a77impala
Thread Starter
To answer two questions. I drilled out the old rivets from the bottom, then soaked the old leather in water to soften it, it was very old and stiff, placed it under a weight to flatten and let it dry. Then used it as a pattern, marking the rivets holes and outline.
04-15-10, 03:05 PM
#37
Birotate Charioteer
a77impala, I neglected in my above post to complement you on your handiwork. The shaping of the leather was very nicely done, and the rivet work is very clean and even.
04-15-10, 04:31 PM
#38
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 202
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Restoring the decal on a frame which was actually made by "x" is one thing. Marking a piece of leather which didn't come from Brooks with the Brooks logo is completely different.
04-15-10, 05:42 PM
#39
)) <> ((
Nonetheless, it is illegal as 7734, and just as unethical. If it didn't come from Brooks (or manufacturer "x," as the case may be), it is a counterfeit. "It's only slightly unethical" isn't any sort of justification.
Restoring the decal on a frame which was actually made by "x" is one thing. Marking a piece of leather which didn't come from Brooks with the Brooks logo is completely different.
Restoring the decal on a frame which was actually made by "x" is one thing. Marking a piece of leather which didn't come from Brooks with the Brooks logo is completely different.
04-15-10, 06:00 PM
#40
perpetually frazzled
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Linton, IN
Posts: 2,467
Bikes: 1977 Bridgestone Kabuki Super Speed; 1979 Raleigh Professional; 1983 Raleigh Rapide mixte; 1974 Peugeot UO-8; 1993 Univega Activa Trail; 1972 Raleigh Sports; 1967 Phillips; 1981 Schwinn World Tourist; 1976 Schwinn LeTour mixte; 1964 Western Flyer
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
6 Posts
Whether it's good practice or not, unless he's wanting to sell it, there isn't any legal problems with recreating the Brooks logo. Were it mine though, I'd probably just go with my own personal logo, just for cool-factor.
