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    Fat Guy on a Little Bike KonAaron Snake's Avatar
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    Koga Miyata Traveler

    It still needs racks and a lighting system, but it's finally mobile. This was the single most annoying build I've ever done. A screw was rusted out and it broke off in the DT cable stop. I eventually had to take it to a metal shop, but they were able to get it out. The seat post binder is impossible to find...I jimmied something up, but it's not a long term fix (the bolt is too thin). The bottom bracket was in awful shape and was stuck in the shell because of broken threads. I think all of the problems and the long wait have only made me appreciate it more.

    Without further ado...my Koga Miyata (check back in a few weeks for update photos with racks):













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    This is one of the two that were in the for sale section, isn't it?
    Those things were beautiful as frames. Even nicer as a complete bike.
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    Fat Guy on a Little Bike KonAaron Snake's Avatar
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    Gratzie! I don't know that I'd have bought it if I knew what I was in for, but the end result is definitely nice. It took a LOT of time, effort and cash though.

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    Well, it was certainly worth the grief. Super job, Kon Aaron!
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    Looks like all of your builds, very nice.

    What racks and lighting will you use?

    I just picked up Surly "Nice" racks for my Bruce Gordon. Used Arkel panniers.

    Have to pick up the BG first though.

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    Really like that frame. It is missing something. Needs a little pizzazz. That blue in the frame is electric. Maybe you can paint the racks electric blue.

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    its very cool. I really like the Fork...something about it just looks very cool to me.

    There's a lot of little things on it that remind me of the Miyata 1000, like that little loop on the Driveside Chainstay to protect against Chain slap.

    Try and get the Front lowrider rack, from what I understand these bikes perform very well with loaded up front bags.

    who's up for some C&V touring?
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    Fat Guy on a Little Bike KonAaron Snake's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by gomango View Post
    Looks like all of your builds, very nice.

    What racks and lighting will you use?

    I just picked up Surly "Nice" racks for my Bruce Gordon. Used Arkel panniers.

    Have to pick up the BG first though.
    I'm using Tubus racks, but I haven't decided between the stainless steel models and the cro-mo.

    I'm going to use two lights for the rear...a planet bike light...I think called a blaster...and something German that I can't remember which is designed to fit the rear rack. For the front, I've been hearing good things about one called the Magic Shine. Eventually I'd like to have a dynamo front hub, but the expenditure was beyond what I want now.

    I have a set of medium-smallish panniers, but I'd like to get another set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox View Post
    its very cool. I really like the Fork...something about it just looks very cool to me.

    There's a lot of little things on it that remind me of the Miyata 1000, like that little loop on the Driveside Chainstay to protect against Chain slap.

    Try and get the Front lowrider rack, from what I understand these bikes perform very well with loaded up front bags.

    who's up for some C&V touring?
    Absolutely! I think I'[m almost %100 again and I really need to put some miles on this baby.

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    Well done. I've been waiting for this bike. What cassette are you using?

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    Aaron,

    Sounds you were a bit unlucky with your endevour in the beginning. The bb is a factory installed unit, that hadn't seen use for almost 20yrs, since new. Hence poor rotation and in need of a service. That you encountered broken threads does surprise me, as 1) new, 2) steel. Binder bolt was introduced from ca 1983 onwards and works better than the regular, but if you are in need for one, are maybe hard to come by with Miyata already having left US in 1995. I already heard from you about that screw. Glad you got it out.

    However, the result is there and is there to be seen and enjoyed. It is a very unconventional build. Typical US style randonneur, with the French influences. That scene is very interesting and you do not have it here - Yet!

    You haven't considered the original dynamo setup with roller under the rear tire and operation on back seattube?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFC View Post
    Well done. I've been waiting for this bike. What cassette are you using?
    I bought a donor bike with a 105 group...the cassette is a 9sp. I think a couple of members will recognize a few of the parts. I'm especially fond of the brakes! The quick release switch on cantis is something I've never seen before, bit it's REALLY cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elev12k View Post
    Aaron,

    Sounds you were a bit unlucky with your endevour in the beginning. The bb is a factory installed unit, that hadn't seen use for almost 20yrs, since new. Hence poor rotation and in need of a service. That you encountered broken threads does surprise me, as 1) new, 2) steel. Binder bolt was introduced from ca 1983 onwards and works better than the regular, but if you are in need for one, are maybe hard to come by with Miyata already having left US in 1995. I already heard from you about that screw. Glad you got it out.

    However, the result is there and is there to be seen and enjoyed. It is a very unconventional build. Typical US style randonneur, with the French influences. That scene is very interesting and you do not have it here - Yet!

    You haven't considered the original dynamo setup with roller under the rear tire and operation on back seattube?
    Elev - if you can get me a binder bolt that fits this, I'd be very appreciative. I was planning on using a hardware store...but it would obviously be preferable to get the right part.

    I think it will look a lot more traditional after it gets racks. I would never set up a bike with anything but drop bars because I just don't like them. I'm also not a fan of barcons...so the options were DT shifters or STIs. I'm a little worried that the STIs might interfere with a handlebar bag should I want one...especially with the narrow drops I chose.

    I spoke with a lot of people in the touring and electronics forums, and all of them said most of the bottle generators that work on the rear wheel are not ideal. Pretty much everyone said a hub dynamo has a lot less rolling resistance and that they work better in the rain.

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    Nice! I really wish I could have picked up one of those frames as well. What tire width did you go with?

    Now, I have to go downstairs and finish my GranWinner one of these days

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    I'm running 28s right now...seems like a good, comfy size that retains some zip.

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    Aaron, next time I am at the lbs (somewhere next week) I will ask them whether they have a binder bolt for your bike or whether they can get hands on one.
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    Thanks man! Appreciate it.

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    Is that brake pad rubbing on the tire?

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    Yes...I initially set it up with 25s because that's what was on the donor wheel...I switched to 28s and had to readjust the brakes afterward.

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    Ride report:

    I've now given this enough time in the saddle to notice a few things...

    1. It has the smoothest ride of any of my bikes, exactly like you'd expect from thicker tubing. It seems to absorb more road vibration than any bike with this size tires I've ridden.

    2. While it definitely has a steady, solid feeling...it doesn't feel dead like the Miyata 1000 I rode...it still has some kick.

    3. Given the tubing thickness and strength, it's really not that heavy...maybe 27-28 lbs before racks but after fenders.

    In short...this is very close to being exactly what I wanted...something between a sport and full tourer that can do either depending on loading. I still need to ride with racks for a more full perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
    Ride report:

    In short...this is very close to being exactly what I wanted...something between a sport and full tourer that can do either depending on loading.
    I am happy to hear that.
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    Then I think you got more than your money's worth. 28 pounds after fenders sounds excellent.

    You should consider wider tires, though. I have a 32mm Panaracer Pasela on the rear wheel of my commuter bike (Super Course) and it's extremely lively. It has very lightweight sidewalls so it feels like a lightweight tire. Not sure it's hefty enough for loaded touring, though.
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    I have a question about the brakes. I don't know much about Cantilevers so I could be wrong... I assumed the "quick release" is an act of pulling the straddle wire out of place. I figured that is why they have the long tab at the ends.

    I do like the frame and the finished product though. I think painted fenders would look cool but I bet it's hard to match.
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    Most quick release for cantis works that way...these have an actual lever on the wire that releases the arms...it's easier and faster than pulling out the tab. The bike looks very different now...I've added the rear rack, bell, lights, water bottles...adjusted the brakes and the bar tape is dirty.

    I thought about painted fenders, but I like how these match the Tubus racks. I should have the low riders in about a week.
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    When is your trip?
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