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Old 03-13-15, 05:25 AM
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I have a buddy which owns a late '90s Killer V using the same font. Can you post pictures? I've never heard of the XR or XS800.
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Odd bird. I've not heard of it until now.
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
I have a buddy which owns a late '90s Killer V using the same font. Can you post pictures? I've never heard of the XR or XS800.
They are 1998 to 2000 ish

https://www.bikeforums.net/recreation...s-edition.html

You can find more on my flickr from there
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Originally Posted by rccardr
Built this as a personal travel bike for a bunch of upcoming excursions that will involve plane travel. The EVOC bike bag I bought requires that both wheels and the handlebars be removed for packing, which is why there's a more modern threadless adaptor and related stem and bar on this- just easier to deal with than a quill. Original build used STI's but I was concerned about bending and kinking the shift cables and housing during travel in the EVOC bag, so instead used a DA 7700 FD and RD, 7900 down tube shifters, compact Sugino crankset, Tektro brakes and levers, and a set of Ultegra hubs laced to Open Pro rims with Vittoria Rubino Pro III tires. I really like those Selle Italia Q-Bik SE saddles, have them on a couple of my bikes that go on long rides. Gearing is 50/34 up front and 12/28 in the back, so I can climb just about anything. I figure that stuff is all pretty bullet proof & should survive whatever the airlines throw at it, and any damage would be easily to repair. We'll find out on the maiden voyage in less than two weeks: February 14th in Palm Springs, CA.



Ok do you have any pictures of this thing bagged and more info on the EVOC bag. I travel a lot but really wished I had a bike to travel with. For now S&S and Ritchey Breakaway stuff all seem so expensive, so if there is an alternative I would like to know more about it.
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Sure, I took a handful of pictures the first time I used the bag:
Here it is loaded up and shot from the side. The chain protector and fork padding hadn't arrived yet, so I used copious amounts of bubble wrap to protect the bottom bracket, crankset and RD.

I also used two small, older travel bags to hold stuff and make it easy to pack: this one contains the saddle and seatpost and two empty water bottles. The bag is held to the back side of the bag with one of the EVOC internal tie down straps:

The second duffle holds the bars and stem; I used the under-seat bag straps to attach that to the bars. The bag itself is attached to the side of the bag with one of the internal EVOC straps:

The bag comes with a pretty good internal tie down system for the front fork. I also purchased an additional padding set for the fork, but it didn't arrive in time to use it. The bag comes with a protective pad that covers the top tube and wraps around the down tube, and is attached with yet another Velcro strap behind it:

I used a seat tube protector plug from a bike box to make sure the seat tube didn't poke a hole in the bag or get damaged. Note yet another internal strap that goes around the upper seat stay to hold the frame in place:


What the pics don't show is how well the wheels are protected. They each fit into a padded compartment, one on each side of the bike, and both have sturdy internal PVC inserts to protect the spokes, as does each end of the large compartment. I also used a plastic dropout spacer inserted in the front and rear dropouts to protect them from getting squashed.

First trip was from DC to CA with a change of planes in Phoenix. No problems, no damage. Since then the chain cover and fork padding arrived, we'll see how it does on its next trip to Texas in early May.
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Nice build @rccardr
Just curious how you and few c'dale bikes showed in this thread manage to fit ini modern wheelset to 128mm old.
Shimano RS21 and other modern WS have 130mm freehub...did you modify the hub or just stretch a bit the rear old.
Mine, 1987 cdale frame, have to stretch the frame a bit to fit in R500 wheels.

Is it dangerous to stretch just 1mm per side to alloy frame?


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I call this one The Black Devil.

Easily the nicest original Black Lightning frame I've ever worked with (an early one, too- born January 2, 1987!), requiring only a buff, polish and wax job with a few teeny touchups. Campy headset, Rolls Due saddle, carbon post, new Shimano 5800 groupset (compact 50/34 with an 11/32 cassette, talk about wide range), with new Shimano RS21 lightweight wheels, new Vittoria Rubino Pro tires, 3TTT stem and nice traditional drop bars. Around 20 pounds & with the steel Tange fork a bike you can ride all day.

Given the gearing, hills should not be an issue.





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cannondale87, As long as there is no pre existing defect or damage the 130 mm hub will work just fine. I've an '89 that has had a succession of 8S wheels since the mid '90s. It's a 126 mm spaced frame.

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I'm refurbing an '89 Black Lightening and am struggling (seriously.) to find downtube shifter mounts that are compatible with the frame. I have Suntour Sprint shifters but only one of the shifter bosses.. (These are the type that connect by a 'two-ended' screw across the inside of the tube) Any idea where I can find some replacement parts? All I have been able to find are braze-on replacements that aren't compatible.
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I have a set, send an e-mail to rccardr@cox.net.
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Originally Posted by cannondale87

Is it dangerous to stretch just 1mm per side to alloy frame?
I'll echo what Brad said. I built an '88 Criterium Series last year and put a set of Vuelta Corsa Lite's on it (eeee-haw!). Same thing, the frame is 126 and the wheels are 130mm. No probs. None. But then, I am not the cautious type and all it took was someone to say they did it. Weight reduction down where it counts.
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Originally Posted by OldsCOOL
I'll echo what Brad said. I built an '88 Criterium Series last year and put a set of Vuelta Corsa Lite's on it (eeee-haw!). Same thing, the frame is 126 and the wheels are 130mm. No probs. None. But then, I am not the cautious type and all it took was someone to say they did it. Weight reduction down where it counts.
thanks for the input...

just wondering... i put shimano r500 wheelset for my cdale sr '87
but it not allign with the frame...a bit off to the left comparing with the rear brake hole... but for the front is just fine...
i have to re-truing the wheel...supposed to be default setting of the wheelset must be centre, right?

anyone ever have the same problem?
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Originally Posted by cannondale87
thanks for the input...

just wondering... i put shimano r500 wheelset for my cdale sr '87
but it not allign with the frame...a bit off to the left comparing with the rear brake hole... but for the front is just fine...
i have to re-truing the wheel...supposed to be default setting of the wheelset must be centre, right?

anyone ever have the same problem?
Reverse the wheel in the drop out to determine if it needs redishing or the drop outs aren't parallel.

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Check the dish, correct as necessary and re-install. If still off center, post pics for advice.

Was the original rear wheel off center as well?
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I remember when I was a teen in the 80's aluminum Cannondale's seemed exotic, always wanted one. Picked this up from CL last week. 1993 R400, RX100 group. All original, I think, down to the reflectors (which I tossed, of course).

So far I cleaned the 1/8" of grease and sawdust off of it. Adjusted the RD and brakes. Replaced the tires with some 28c Gatorskin's and I removed the Cateye wired computer along with the awful Cateye branded scotch tape stuck all over the frame, in favor of my little Garmin 200.

I commuted to work on it this morning, great fun to ride.
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Originally Posted by RoderWrench


I remember when I was a teen in the 80's aluminum Cannondale's seemed exotic, always wanted one. Picked this up from CL last week. 1993 R400, RX100 group. All original, I think, down to the reflectors (which I tossed, of course).

So far I cleaned the 1/8" of grease and sawdust off of it. Adjusted the RD and brakes. Replaced the tires with some 28c Gatorskin's and I removed the Cateye wired computer along with the awful Cateye branded scotch tape stuck all over the frame, in favor of my little Garmin 200.

I commuted to work on it this morning, great fun to ride.
With reflectors? Now that's what I call an intact find.

Nice bike!
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Originally Posted by RoderWrench
All original, I think, down to the reflectors (which I tossed, of course).



If they were original, you should have kept them. Not necessarily on the bike, though

Anyway, cool bike
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That's one of their better 90's models, IMHO, even with the cantilever dropouts and alloy fork.
That RX100 down tube indexed stuff was on the game & used all of the knowledge Shimano had acquired over the previous decade.
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