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    Grim, The red and yellow fade was a hard to get color option around here, still plenty of folks Jones'n for one. A little R300 lore... there was some controversy about which frame was used for them. Seems they started off as a CAAD2 and ended up as a CAAD3 (perhaps mid model year). I've only seen the CAAD2, which had the model designation in a cursive style font while others have only seen the CAAD3 version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rccardr View Post
    Red and yellow. Yellow and red. MMMMmmmmm...
    It is probably my color confusion and my laptop's LCD screen, but I see Orange and Red, Red and Orange. MMMMMmmmmmm.

    Grim, very nicely done! We'll need to go for a ride the next time I visit Atlanta.

    Just a curiosity question: Why was an extra "A" added when CAD2 jumped to CAAD3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradtx View Post
    Grim, The red and yellow fade was a hard to get color option around here, still plenty of folks Jones'n for one. A little R300 lore... there was some controversy about which frame was used for them. Seems they started off as a CAAD2 and ended up as a CAAD3 (perhaps mid model year). I've only seen the CAAD2, which had the model designation in a cursive style font while others have only seen the CAAD3 version.

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    That threw me as well because when I saw the ad for it it said CAD3. I went and looked at the Vintage Cannondale site and it listed the R300 as a CAD2. The CL pictures were not clear enough for me to see it and I wrote it off as seller mislisted. Sure enough when I picked it up is is a CAD3. So then I wrote it off as a change after the catalog was put together.

    So what exactly is different about a CAD 2 and 3? I guess I could go look at the catalog and see if it lists some dimensional change.
    One thing that surprised me is this bike will fit 28's (slid the front wheel from one of the T700s on it to check). I am happy about that and it gives me more options when I wear out the tires that were on the donor.

    Quote Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
    It is probably my color confusion and my laptop's LCD screen, but I see Orange and Red, Red and Orange. MMMMMmmmmmm.

    Grim, very nicely done! We'll need to go for a ride the next time I visit Atlanta.

    Just a curiosity question: Why was an extra "A" added when CAD2 jumped to CAAD3?
    I always under stood it to be Computer Aided Design. Did the new designer have a stutter?




    Not sure and I have wondered about that as well. This one is actually CAD3 (single A). My 98 T700 is a CAD2 as is my 98 M400. My 95 T700 doesn't have it on it but I think the catalog lists it as CAD2.
    I have a friend with a mid 2000's bike and it has the double AA. So that leads me to think it was probably after 2000 that the extra A appeared.

    EDIT: went and looked it up CAAD is Computer Advanced Aluminum Design. and the and the A's are stacked even if it looks like CAD( if you look the Bridge of the A is actually a diamond to represent the second A) and my CAD3 is actually a CAAD3. Same deal with the CAD2...they are CAAD2 and listed as such in the 98 catalog. The first refference to CAAD I saw was in the 96 catalog but they were toting their CAD system they were designing on in 94. I suspect it is a legal deal. They are ALL CAAD.

    Yeah look me up. I actually live north of Atlanta in Marietta. Been on the Silver Comet? We often make a lunch ride out to Frankie's in Rockmart on the weekends. She makes a mean Tilapia Parmigiana. We usualy start near Hiram for about a 36-46 mile round trip depending on trail head. Its a Rails to trails so very easy grade. Very nice part of the trail through the Paulding Forest and it includes a BIG trestle crossing and the Brushy Mt Tunnel.
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    Bob, My '99 CAAD3 frameset (no model designation) has a small triangle inside the A as the second A... artsy fartsy stuff. I'd have to double check, but the two As decal might've first came on the CAAD4, which has it's own drama similar to the R300. It started as a 1" threaded headset and then changed to threadless mid model year '99, IIRC without a designation change.

    Grim, I recall the difference between the two had something to do with the down and top tubes, perhaps more akin to the 3.0.(?) The CAAD3 is simply a 2.8 with non cantilevered seat stays, the first CAAD4 was a CAAD3 with hourglass shaped seatstays.

    EDIT: I forgot, being handmade some of these bike's brake bridge can handle more than a 25C, some barely a large 23C.

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    I have seen where people will flip the rear brake backwards so they can get bigger tires on bikes used for commuting. My 2.8 R600 I am not sure a 25mm would have fit between the chain stays. This one plenty of bridge and chain stay clearance and 28mm looks like no problem.
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    Thanks for the clarification on the CAD vs. the CAAD. I also have a 2001 CAAD4 with the 1 & 1/8 inch headset/steering tube. Did the 1" CAAD4 come with a Slice CF fork?

    Grim, I'll let you know the next time I visit Atlanta. I keep a bike at my nephew's house in East Atlanta.
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    "Did the 1" CAAD4 come with a Slice CF fork?" --pastorbobnlnh

    Good question! I don't think so.

    Brad

    EDIT: I stand corrected. The Slice fork was first available in a 1" threaded version on the '97 CAAD3 R4000.
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    Sweet!!!... I love Cannondales! Bookmarking this
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    Just finished this nice 54. January '87 SR frame, Asian Red powder coat, Shimano 600 tricolor FD/RD/DT shifters and brakeset, gorgeous Sakae crankset and dark anodized SLR brake levers, 7 speed HyperGlide cassette, Shimano hubs on Omega Mach 1 shallow V wheels (130's) & Michelins, Vader saddle, cable housing and bar wrap in black with new white decals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rccardr View Post
    Purty, I think.
    I think so, too.
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    I'll offer my two thumbs up as well!
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    Been building and boxing in anticipation of spring. Here's a really nice '85 60cm frame powder coated in lemon yellow and done up as a late 80's SR500 resto. Full Shimano 105 1st gen (well, the first really called 105) 6 speed indexed, much of it NOS. Rigida ano rims on Maillard hubs, Michelin Speedium tires, SR stem, Vader seat. Too tall for me, but for someone 6 feet 1 or so...perfecto!




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    that looks good. fits me too.
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    D*mn you do nice work rccardr! If I can get my Cany to come out half as nice, I'll be a very, very happy man.
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    What I'm curious about is, where do you amass all these Cannondales from? Is that all you buy?
    One of these days I'm going to inquire about one, about the size of that yellow '85.

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    Pure eye candy. Lovely work. A little overwhelming ... I'm somewhat reluctant to walk into my bike shed.
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    Stiff upper lip; after seeing photos of your other bikes in the past, I wouldn't be reluctant to see what 'new' bikes your working on.
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    pastorbobnlnh:
    I guess it will need to either go to a long cage RD or a smaller range cassette.
    I'm using a radical bail-out cog on both my Trek 560 and my Vitus 979. I had fears that I was going to run into the same trouble, but I was determined to have the big cog when I climb on my way to work with a sack full of stuff on my back. Well, the Trek has a Shimano 600 RD — Tri-color if memory serves me. As for the Vitus: I took off a Sugino 75 road RD and replaced it with an NOS C. 1985 Suntour XE long cage. In both cases there is no problem at all.

    If you have a tired spring in the RD, it could produce problems ... and AFAIK, they may not necessarily exhibit their weakness at the extremes of the cassette range. I admit that I could be wrong about this, but watching some stuff on the test stand one day had me thinking.
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    What I'm curious about is, where do you amass all these Cannondales from? Is that all you buy?
    One of these days I'm going to inquire about one, about the size of that yellow '85.
    I buy 'em when I see 'em from all over the world. Mostly frames rather than complete bikes. Components, too. Everything goes onto a spreadsheet and then into storage, and as I build bikes I pull out what I need. Over the winter I have frames powder coated 5 or 6 at a time, then build and box. The completed bikes go into storage until spring when Buying Madness begins.

    I have one more 60cm frame (and a 62 and a couple of 58's, as well as a few Schwinn Tempo 23's and a 25) and my daughter lives in CT, so drop me a line of you want to converse about a build-to-order...
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    Someone say Red and Yellow fade Cannondales

    Here is my recently purchased '97 R800 CAAD3






    Disregard the right shifter and lack of bar tape , I've been trying to get the shifter to work again. Looking real close under the rear cable stop on the top tube you can see the corrosion and paint bubble, that was repainted by someone, poorly. But it will see the Pc shop and see if I can get them to paint it to match as close as possible. Several smaller paint bubbles on the BB, and other cable stops as well.

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    Hopefully I will post a picture of my latest, a '96 SR500 before the end of the week. It's all Silk Road Head Shok goodness!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fas2c View Post
    Here is my recently purchased '97 R800 CAAD3




    Disregard the right shifter and lack of bar tape , I've been trying to get the shifter to work again. Looking real close under the rear cable stop on the top tube you can see the corrosion and paint bubble, that was repainted by someone, poorly. But it will see the Pc shop and see if I can get them to paint it to match as close as possible. Several smaller paint bubbles on the BB, and other cable stops as well.
    Let me guess 105 SC 8speed?
    I have them on my Fade R400 and hung up and a set on a Nashbar 7000 that are also hung up.

    I took apart a 105 9 speed 2 years ago and swore never again will open up a Shimano STI . LOL

    I have been flushing mine with brake cleaner and just cant get it reliable. It will work for a short period of time. As soon as it gets cold it sticks again. I cant work it into the shafts on the paws. I guess I am going to try to take them apart despite my vow. I have heard the 8speeds are not has hard to work on. I keep putting it off.
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    Where do u get the decals for these? I need a top tube decal for my 90 Criterium 3.0.
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    Everyone seems to have the same garage door.
    You don't read my signature anyway, do you?

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    Here's my latest Cannondale, 1996 SR500.

    I was the only bidder on Ebay about month ago for this 60cm frameset with a non-functioning Silk Road Headshok fork. It had been a dream to find one in my size. And I had a spare black Silk Road Headshok in my spares!

    Two weeks later I won a NIB 1996 Shimano 105 triple groupset (8 speed) at an excellent price. I picked up the wheels from Nashbar with a good 20% off discount for about $130 shipped. I'm very tempted to pull off the rim labels, but I'll wait to see what the general opinion shakes out to be here.

    Can't wait for better weather!







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