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Old 06-16-10, 08:58 PM   #1
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Bianchi Randonneur

I'm now down to only one blue and yellow Trek. BUT to make up for it I now am the very pleased owner of an '84 Bianchi Randonneur. The bike is in overall great condition for being 26 years old, no visible rust other than small nicks, no dings etc. It NEEDS a bath badly. The only issue is with the OG rear wheel axle, it broke. The seller had installed another Araya wheel on the bike so it can be ridden and gave me the OG rear wheel (needs a spoke and a new axle). Until today I had never seen 27" wheels w/ presta valves, so I'm happy to have a complete set. It rides great and even though the half step gearing is odd, it seems to work. I'll report back after a real ride.... The original hoods disintegrated when I touched them so, new hoods will be in order. The PO had ordered some blue w/ gold fleck bar wrap (matches the graphics) so I just need to install that. Here are some pics. The bike came w/ front and rear racks (not Jim Blackburn) but extremely light and they feel pretty strong, a Bianchi water bottle and he has the OG owners manual and will be dropping it off in the ER where I work along with the pedal cages and new straps (turns out he is a Dr. in the hospital and has an affinity for old bikes). Overall I'm pleased and will be much more so when I get the axle replaced. Here are some pictures



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Sweet!!! I am sure that you are not going to miss your foil Trek (plus it was redundant in your stable)

Half step and a granny takes a bit of an adjustment (just mental; you have to switch as much on the front as you switch on the back) but it is a nice set up once you master it. This puppy can take some punishment and wide tires (and can so deal with 700 wheels judging from the picture and the canti set up; which will give you a much better selection of tires)

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Looks good man! I'm knee deep in a Nuova Touring build right now(same white!), so I can definitely appreciate the Bianchi sport tourers. Nice ride.
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good choice. it even came with the racks!
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Looks good man! I'm knee deep in a Nuova Touring build right now(same white!), so I can definitely appreciate the Bianchi sport tourers. Nice ride.
Definitely more tour than sports though. Most "sports-tourers" are the opposite, IME.
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Cool bike. Plenty of potential there.
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The cranks are Takagi forged "Tourney A/D". They look pretty solid and should handle anything I can dish out. The outer ring is a 52, I think the middle is a 48 and the little one is 36. All the components are Suntour Mountech w/ Dia-Compe Gran Compe brake levers, Dia-Compe cantis, SR stem, Sakae Custom Road Champion bars, Suzue hubs with little "clips" on the center of the hubs (concealing a small hole?), a Strong 26.2 seatpost and a Bianchi (I think) suede seat. It just needs some R&R and it'll be ready for anything. The front hub is super smooth, the rear needs some "help" along w/ one broken spoke which brings me to my first crossroad; 1) minimal cost, replace the broken spoke and axle on rear wheel and run 27"s 2) moderate cost, respoke and replace the rear axle and run 27"s (period correct), 3) substantial cost, new 700c rims laced to R&R'd Suzue hubs or 4) most expensive (maybe) new wheelset w/ a 7 or 8spd cassette hubs. Thoughts?
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Definitely more tour than sports though. Most "sports-tourers" are the opposite, IME.
The Randonneur is more tour? I don't know much about them, but I just assumed they were a mix.
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great looking Bianchi, that should be perfect for anything but the fastest groups rides or loaded touring. if that bike is 'dirty' consider yourself lucky, you should see what just came do my door, I should call the bike police on this guy!

I think perhaps in the early '90s Bianchi may have started using the term 'sport touring' for bikes like the Eros to give the sport a more race like sound. I think the idea is essentially the same. here is a little something from RUSA: Randonneurs USA.

Randonneuring: Randonneuring is long-distance unsupported endurance cycling. This style of riding is non-competitive in nature, and self-sufficiency is paramount. When riders participate in randonneuring events, they are part of a long tradition that goes back to the beginning of the sport of cycling in France and Italy. Friendly camaraderie, not competition, is the hallmark of randonneuring.
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Looks sweet, perhaps even sweeter with a set of lightweight fenders!
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The cranks are Takagi forged "Tourney A/D". They look pretty solid and should handle anything I can dish out. The outer ring is a 52, I think the middle is a 48 and the little one is 36. All the components are Suntour Mountech w/ Dia-Compe Gran Compe brake levers, Dia-Compe cantis, SR stem, Sakae Custom Road Champion bars, Suzue hubs with little "clips" on the center of the hubs (concealing a small hole?), a Strong 26.2 seatpost and a Bianchi (I think) suede seat. It just needs some R&R and it'll be ready for anything. The front hub is super smooth, the rear needs some "help" along w/ one broken spoke which brings me to my first crossroad; 1) minimal cost, replace the broken spoke and axle on rear wheel and run 27"s 2) moderate cost, respoke and replace the rear axle and run 27"s (period correct), 3) substantial cost, new 700c rims laced to R&R'd Suzue hubs or 4) most expensive (maybe) new wheelset w/ a 7 or 8spd cassette hubs. Thoughts?
Don't you have some 700c rims laying around to test and see whether that option will work with the brakes? If it does, 700c would be the way to go (to allow for some clearance for fenders). It might be less expensive than you think, because you probably want a wider rim. Plenty of donor hybrids around for cheap with that size alloy rims. You might have to reuse your own hub for the rear (or get one), because lots of hybrids have 135mm rear spacing. What's the spacing on the bike? 120 or 126? If either, you could maybe get a 7sp (no problem with 126 ) but if 120, I'd advice against spreading it to 130 for an 8 sp.
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The Randonneur is more tour? I don't know much about them, but I just assumed they were a mix.
Personally, when I think of a "sports-touring" bike, I think of mid and middle-high range road bikes with slightly relaxed geometry, maybe one set of eyelets (ie. racks or fenders... choose one) and long reach caliper brakes. In other words, a road bike with some concessions to comfort and user-friendliness.

This bike, on the other hand, seems to come at things from a touring perspective and then tone them down only slightly. You've got the racks that come stock, you've got the canti brakes... I wouldn't hesitate to go out on a tour with one.


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If your Bianchi rides anything like the 1986-87 Volpe I found Yard Sailing a few weeks ago, then you are in for a treat. I have been riding mine all over the place and decided to take it to my summer cottage to be used as my country bike this year.

Anyway, congrats on a nice bicycle. Hope you like it as much as I like the Wolf.

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I think a nice set of hammered aluminum fenders would look quite snappy. Right now I just want to ride the bike and I think I'm going to just R&R the rear wheel. The only 700c wheels I have are narrow road wheels and I'd like to run tires between 28-32. Bianchigirl- Why wouldn't I want to use this bike on a loaded tour? Racks too flimsy? I've never done any true touring but I wanted a bike that I can do long day or perhaps an overnight trip with and I thought this would suit me fine.
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to me 'loaded touring' is taking everything with you for a long trip. several changes of clothes, cooking gear, camping gear everything. I would have to double check the geomentry but I have a feeling if you really load that bike up, especially panniers in the front, it might get squirrely. now a nice set of panniers in the back a small bag in the front for a few days of 'credit card touring' (hotels, diners) would be a great way to spend a vacation.

I do not have alot of miles on mine yet, but I agree with Randy, if that is anything like our Volpes you will love that bike.
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I think a nice set of hammered aluminum fenders would look quite snappy. Right now I just want to ride the bike and I think I'm going to just R&R the rear wheel. The only 700c wheels I have are narrow road wheels and I'd like to run tires between 28-32. Bianchigirl- Why wouldn't I want to use this bike on a loaded tour? Racks too flimsy? I've never done any true touring but I wanted a bike that I can do long day or perhaps an overnight trip with and I thought this would suit me fine.
I think that it will be fine for what you want it for (overnight, day long, etc). Touring gets hairy when you have to carry a tent, sleeping bag/s, clothes, cooking utensils and your food for the week. You'd probably need any square inch of your bike to be able to hold something, including be able to add lowriders up front. This bike could possible take that, but for what you need it, I am 100% sure it will be fine. If you are going to really load it, you probably want to run something more than 32. Like a 35-37
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If it were me,,,,,I would just replace the spoke and broken axle, put some Pacela 1 1/8 or 1 1/4 tires on that puppy and ride, ride, ride. The Pacela (spelling) tires ride real nice and the price is fair. If you have a tire problem 40 or 50 miles from home just go to the local Walmart and put on a cheap 1 1/4 x 27 and ride it home. No fuss, no muss. Some small town hardware stores sometimes have them.
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It was a gorgeous morning (still is although a little too humid for me) and I wanted to ride my "new" bike. This weekend has been a blur; two weddings , family in from out of town etc so, I didn't get a chance to swap out the rear axle or spoke. My solution was to grab the rear wheel from my Free Spirit (need to attend the fork issue w/ that anyway) and throw it on the Bianchi. Everything fit and seemed to shift fine. Out on the road however it did not like having an extra cog out back to deal with (too much chain angle etc) so I need to fix the original hub and wheel. With half step gearing are there certain cogs you can use together? With my MTB, I can run the granny up front and use the entire rear gears (8spd) without issue. It doesn't seem to be the case here. Is that user error (using the wrong combos), lack of fine tuning and setup or I just have to stick to a 6 spd rear cog (which is fine with me)? I googled half step gearing and found a few things but it didn't really answer my questions. Thanks guys
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how does it ride?

as you know you should't really 'cross chian' any bike althought you should be able to use all the gears. what is the problem you are having? I could see the chain possible rubbing the middle ring a bit if you are using the granny and the small cog.

BTW here is the '83 I missed. I think may have, in his opinion, lowballed him. but I thugh $250 -275 was a great deal. shipping was going to run me another 100
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It was a gorgeous morning (still is although a little too humid for me) and I wanted to ride my "new" bike. This weekend has been a blur; two weddings , family in from out of town etc so, I didn't get a chance to swap out the rear axle or spoke. My solution was to grab the rear wheel from my Free Spirit (need to attend the fork issue w/ that anyway) and throw it on the Bianchi. Everything fit and seemed to shift fine. Out on the road however it did not like having an extra cog out back to deal with (too much chain angle etc) so I need to fix the original hub and wheel. With half step gearing are there certain cogs you can use together? With my MTB, I can run the granny up front and use the entire rear gears (8spd) without issue. It doesn't seem to be the case here. Is that user error (using the wrong combos), lack of fine tuning and setup or I just have to stick to a 6 spd rear cog (which is fine with me)? I googled half step gearing and found a few things but it didn't really answer my questions. Thanks guys

The beauty of the half step gearing is that you can have a wide range freewheel (even at 5 sp) with jumps of 3 teeth per cog, but you need to train your mind to shift up front for the finer jumps and not to the rear. The granny is a bail out gear and should be used only with the bigger cogs. As far as what upper and lower freewheel tooth limit your setup can handle, the RD (and the chain in some instances, but mainly the RD) is the limiting factor. If I were you, I would figure out the biggest cog the RD can handle (lets say 28) and the biggest tooth difference that can handle (lets say 15) and would try to find a 13-28 freewheel with 3 tooth count jumps between the cogs (13-16-19-22-25-28 or similar) to take advatage of the half step properly. Granny should live on the 22-25-28 space and mainly on the 25-28 space.
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It rides great! I need to wrap the bars and adjust everything so it happy but, so far its great. Thanks for the info about the gearing. I'm just used to shifting my trek.
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I took the wheels to get fixed/trued last night. It cost me $28.50 for Jason (shop owner) to true both wheels, r&r the offending spoke, repack the rear hub w/ a new axle. I'm happy, the bike work SO MUCH BETTER with the OG wheels and cog and I have clean hands. I have no issues now with shifting and I can use the granny gear on any rear cog w/out issue. It is much smoother shifting and the ride is great. I just need to replace the Bianchi suede seat w/ another Brooks Professional, get a set of fenders and it'll be "done". Updated pictures coming....
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Was that in Hellertown? 28.50 for all of these is not bad at all. Glad everything is working now What is the make of the saddle you have? If is it San Marco or Italia instead of Cinelli, you might want to give it another try (but those Cinellis are harder than a rock)
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My 3 and 6 MTB shifts like this, 1 - 1,2,3 then 2 - 2, 3, 4 and then 3 - 4, 5, 6. according to the owner's manual. I think you'll adjust soon enough though
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