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Old 06-17-10, 10:36 PM   #1
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Super Champion 27" 36 Spoke Wheels

I have a pair of them that a co-worker gave to me as all his road bikes are 700c. Both have 36 stainless steel spokes, on some larger diameter hubs. The front wheel is laced up funny.
3 spokes from the inside of the hub, followed by three spokes from the outside of the hub. Each spoke crosses three others within 6" of the hub. It looks cool I guess

If I was going to replace the Helicomatic with something more modern. Would you re-lace up the matrix safari wheels with new hubs and spokes, or should I leave those alone and lace up the Super Champions?

I'm primarily riding my Trek 520 for recreation, short commute (7.33m each way) and to pull my daughter around in a bike cart. I don't plan on crossing the country, or even the state unsupported anytime soon.

I'm considering installing something like the SRAM Apex Group. With a ten speed (11-32) rear cassette, and their (50/34) crankset which sufficiently destroys this half step with granny setup.

Anyway, Matrix Safari vs Super Champions? Any opinions?

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Photo of the funky wheel, please? Maybe it's a crows-foot lacing pattern? I built a few of those in the early 80's, thought it was pretty cool.
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When I get home from the office today I'll snap a photo of the wheels. The rear is pretty standard lacing. The Front is the goofy one.
Any opinion on whether I should build up the Super Champions with the new parts, or the Matrix Safari wheels?
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PMaybe it's a crows-foot lacing pattern? I built a few of those in the early 80's, thought it was pretty cool.
Always wanted to build some of those, but never came across the specifics as to how...
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This is not my wheel. (I'll post photos when I get home after 6 eastern) however this does appear to be laced the same as my front wheel:

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Okay, that is cool. I have to try that. Soon.
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This website seems to explain it pretty well.
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Photo of the funky wheel, please? Maybe it's a crows-foot lacing pattern? I built a few of those in the early 80's, thought it was pretty cool.
Here you go.

27" Super Champion Wheel,
With an unknown hub.

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I like Super Champion rims, I have them on several of my bikes.
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Image linking fail. Sorry:



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That's really wild. I like the way each group of 6 spokes are really woven together.

I wonder if it has any structural issues, potential weak spots, etc....
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