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    Super Champion 27" 36 Spoke Wheels

    I have a pair of them that a co-worker gave to me as all his road bikes are 700c. Both have 36 stainless steel spokes, on some larger diameter hubs. The front wheel is laced up funny.
    3 spokes from the inside of the hub, followed by three spokes from the outside of the hub. Each spoke crosses three others within 6" of the hub. It looks cool I guess

    If I was going to replace the Helicomatic with something more modern. Would you re-lace up the matrix safari wheels with new hubs and spokes, or should I leave those alone and lace up the Super Champions?

    I'm primarily riding my Trek 520 for recreation, short commute (7.33m each way) and to pull my daughter around in a bike cart. I don't plan on crossing the country, or even the state unsupported anytime soon.

    I'm considering installing something like the SRAM Apex Group. With a ten speed (11-32) rear cassette, and their (50/34) crankset which sufficiently destroys this half step with granny setup.

    Anyway, Matrix Safari vs Super Champions? Any opinions?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Photo of the funky wheel, please? Maybe it's a crows-foot lacing pattern? I built a few of those in the early 80's, thought it was pretty cool.

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    When I get home from the office today I'll snap a photo of the wheels. The rear is pretty standard lacing. The Front is the goofy one.
    Any opinion on whether I should build up the Super Champions with the new parts, or the Matrix Safari wheels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhm View Post
    PMaybe it's a crows-foot lacing pattern? I built a few of those in the early 80's, thought it was pretty cool.
    Always wanted to build some of those, but never came across the specifics as to how...

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    This is not my wheel. (I'll post photos when I get home after 6 eastern) however this does appear to be laced the same as my front wheel:


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    Okay, that is cool. I have to try that. Soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbakl View Post
    Always wanted to build some of those, but never came across the specifics as to how...
    This website seems to explain it pretty well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhm View Post
    Photo of the funky wheel, please? Maybe it's a crows-foot lacing pattern? I built a few of those in the early 80's, thought it was pretty cool.
    Here you go.

    27" Super Champion Wheel,
    With an unknown hub.


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    I like Super Champion rims, I have them on several of my bikes.
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    Image linking fail. Sorry:




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    That's really wild. I like the way each group of 6 spokes are really woven together.

    I wonder if it has any structural issues, potential weak spots, etc....

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