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    spoke end markings database

    while looking for info to ID spokes on an old French wheel, I came across this list in the CR archives:

    Spoke Head Markings
    Mark Brand Country Comment
    DT DT Swiss Switzerland
    U Union Germany
    R (Reversed) Redaelli Italy
    A Alpina Italy
    Y Prym Germany
    E Trois Etoiles France Robergel
    Crescent Robergel France
    Clover Berg-Union Switzerland
    Star Stella Italy
    W Wolber?
    W Wheelsmith USA Since 1984 probably made by Asahi
    P Performance probably made by Asahi
    Three stars Trois Etoiles France Robergel
    Three dots
    Cross (+) Torrington USA (Connecticut)
    A Asahi Japan
    H Hoshi Japan
    SAP Sapim Belgium stamped on the elbow
    T (in shield) Torrington USA

    I think John Hurley (who complied it) would not mind it being shared with our crowd

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    6 "S: around the edge. 1.8mm Trois Etoiles France Robergel. Not all the S visible because they are cut by the slot.

    That is the nipples, not the spokes. But useful to know if you have a box of random nipples and off course the French nipples have a different
    threading.

    One of these days I will do a set of pictures of nipples to match this page:
    http://www.mrrabbit.net/docs/spokeheads/main.html
    Last edited by bikemore; 11-10-12 at 02:01 PM.
    Looking for 25 or 26T Dura Ace uniglide cogs both cassette and FW. Can trade NOS 22 or 24T.

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    Looking for 25 or 26T Dura Ace uniglide cogs both cassette and FW. Can trade NOS 22 or 24T.

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    These are Stella?

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    oh no, not another thing to worry about when restoring a bicycle
    whats next!!!!!
    My name is Michael, and I am a recovering bike addict, It has been 11 months since I purchased a bicycle for myself..
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    Dang!, it's so small, I can't see it!!.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by puchfinnland View Post
    oh no, not another thing to worry about when restoring a bicycle
    whats next!!!!!
    Add spoke threading to the list of possible concerns. Some older French spokes won't work with standard nipples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
    These are Stella?

    Can't see those too clearly Colonel but, nope. Stella spokes have a raised five pointed star with a raised ouline. Those look like something else. If you check Hurley's spoke data base he's got a lot of "unknown"s shown too. Yours appear to be the same as the fifth "unknown" down on the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikemore View Post
    But useful to know if you have a box of random nipples and off course the French nipples have a different threading.
    "The French don't copy anyone, and no one copies the French"
    -- Click & Clack, talking about the oddities of French automotive engineering

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