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Old 07-25-10, 08:12 PM   #1
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spoke end markings database

while looking for info to ID spokes on an old French wheel, I came across this list in the CR archives:

Spoke Head Markings
Mark Brand Country Comment
DT DT Swiss Switzerland
U Union Germany
R (Reversed) Redaelli Italy
A Alpina Italy
Y Prym Germany
E Trois Etoiles France Robergel
Crescent Robergel France
Clover Berg-Union Switzerland
Star Stella Italy
W Wolber?
W Wheelsmith USA Since 1984 probably made by Asahi
P Performance probably made by Asahi
Three stars Trois Etoiles France Robergel
Three dots
Cross (+) Torrington USA (Connecticut)
A Asahi Japan
H Hoshi Japan
SAP Sapim Belgium stamped on the elbow
T (in shield) Torrington USA

I think John Hurley (who complied it) would not mind it being shared with our crowd
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Old 11-10-12, 01:58 PM   #2
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6 "S: around the edge. 1.8mm Trois Etoiles France Robergel. Not all the S visible because they are cut by the slot.

That is the nipples, not the spokes. But useful to know if you have a box of random nipples and off course the French nipples have a different
threading.

One of these days I will do a set of pictures of nipples to match this page:
http://www.mrrabbit.net/docs/spokeheads/main.html
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http://www.mrrabbit.net/docs/spokeheads/main.html
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I forgot I got started on this:

http://www.velobase.com/ViewComponen...m=126&AbsPos=2
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These are Stella?

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oh no, not another thing to worry about when restoring a bicycle
whats next!!!!!
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Dang!, it's so small, I can't see it!!.......

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Add spoke threading to the list of possible concerns. Some older French spokes won't work with standard nipples.
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These are Stella?

Can't see those too clearly Colonel but, nope. Stella spokes have a raised five pointed star with a raised ouline. Those look like something else. If you check Hurley's spoke data base he's got a lot of "unknown"s shown too. Yours appear to be the same as the fifth "unknown" down on the list.
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But useful to know if you have a box of random nipples and off course the French nipples have a different threading.
"The French don't copy anyone, and no one copies the French"
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