Future C&V?
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Future C&V?
Did I hear right? Only 667 will be built. Mine is reserv...................nah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of6Us...ayer_embedded#!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of6Us...ayer_embedded#!
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I stopped watching after I heard "80 grand."
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It's a cultural experience. But you're right. One quickly gets the twisted idea.
Just thought it was an interesting, if absurd, snapshot. If you can believe the rep, they've sold $3.3m worth already. It's a "boutique" bike. What are annual sales for Waterford, Serotta, Rivendale........etc.?
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Just thought it was an interesting, if absurd, snapshot. If you can believe the rep, they've sold $3.3m worth already. It's a "boutique" bike. What are annual sales for Waterford, Serotta, Rivendale........etc.?
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for 80 Grand does it come with a dooshbag or do you have to become one on your Own?
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I saw that the other day but just scoffed and kept going. The bike is kinda cool looking. But 80 grand for something I could likely build for less than $1,000? Please. Take a small engine, attach the chainrings and a REALLY small cassette and you can fly, and have gears to boot. Same principal as well, at the speeds you'll reach with both, you'll have to register them as motorcycles.
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actually in NJ (and I beleive in NY) there is no provision in the law for an electric motorcycle. Its considered the same as an electric bicycle which, if capable of more than 20mph, is illegal.
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not gonna lie, I looked into hub motors for my schwinn Varsity over the winter...would have been around a grand to do it to both wheels and get a proper controller, etc.
That would be a highly illegal machine as well, although would be pretty hilarious to gruber assist up a hill at 25mph on a 40 pound schwinn past a pack of plastic bikes
That would be a highly illegal machine as well, although would be pretty hilarious to gruber assist up a hill at 25mph on a 40 pound schwinn past a pack of plastic bikes
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not gonna lie, I looked into hub motors for my schwinn Varsity over the winter...would have been around a grand to do it to both wheels and get a proper controller, etc.
That would be a highly illegal machine as well, although would be pretty hilarious to gruber assist up a hill at 25mph on a 40 pound schwinn past a pack of plastic bikes
That would be a highly illegal machine as well, although would be pretty hilarious to gruber assist up a hill at 25mph on a 40 pound schwinn past a pack of plastic bikes
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I can see the need with a varsity. That sales guy in the video was a dooche. Touting the green advantage. Legs and peddling are a lot more greener.
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I'd like to see a contest for high schoolers like they have with electric cars, but with old road bikes. I'd bet one of those classes can beat that 80K thing within 3 years, probably for $600
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A rich persons novelty. If I want an electric motorcycle I'll buy an electric motorcycle.
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10% of the cost and none of the dooshbaggery. No pedals though,as if anyone that buys one of those will use them.
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Exactly. How many pounds of ore to make a battery? I've heard 10,000 lbs for a set of Prius batteries, but that was on NPR, so you never know. Same radio show said a Prius becomes more environmentally friendly than a Focus only after 250,000 miles, if the batteries don't need replacing.
So long as it isn't fossil fuel it's good in their eyes without any regard for manufacture, maintenance, and disposal. Gee, we have to recycle our old laptop batteries...why? Because they're an EXTREME concentration of toxic materials. Now scale up to a Prius battery, now multiply that x 1,000,000. Amazing.
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A search for TFKL engineering comes up empty other then that video. Not buying it 'cause I've heard a couple trucks hit motorcycles and it's nowhere near that quiet.
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I'd be willing to bet that if you wring it out, it has a range of 50 miles or less.
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80 grand??!! Holy cow!, With that money, I might be able to buy a Ducati Desmosedici V4 race motorcycle that would go 180MPH+....... or at least make a very good downpayment for one.
So who the heck is going to buy that MTB? some "nouvo riche" rock or rap star??..........To ride around their ranch and "cribs" and summarily crash it into the bushes in some drug induced haze??
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So who the heck is going to buy that MTB? some "nouvo riche" rock or rap star??..........To ride around their ranch and "cribs" and summarily crash it into the bushes in some drug induced haze??
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I make this exact argument with some of my tree-hugging, environmentally over the top acquaintances and their eyes glaze over. They seem to think that batteries come from the store, or from the battery fairy, or something.
So long as it isn't fossil fuel it's good in their eyes without any regard for manufacture, maintenance, and disposal. Gee, we have to recycle our old laptop batteries...why? Because they're an EXTREME concentration of toxic materials. Now scale up to a Prius battery, now multiply that x 1,000,000. Amazing.
So long as it isn't fossil fuel it's good in their eyes without any regard for manufacture, maintenance, and disposal. Gee, we have to recycle our old laptop batteries...why? Because they're an EXTREME concentration of toxic materials. Now scale up to a Prius battery, now multiply that x 1,000,000. Amazing.
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Small, light weight cars, with low horsepower, highly efficient petroleum fuel engines will "out green" everything else for the next 50 years.
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The issue there is that with such stringent safety requirements the government is basically demanding car makers to build heavy cars. But with CAFE standards they expect them to build fuel-efficient vehicles. And weight and fuel efficiency just don't go hand in hand unless the aerodynamics come into play, but those tend to be outdone by safety standards. They're being told to build safe, and fuel-efficient and for any reasonably affordable price, that's difficult to do. I'd be all for a super-aerodynamic car like the Ford Probe V which could (purportedly) do 50mph on only 5hp, but actually building the car to be safe is why it's so difficult.
It's a deadly circle, and I'm not sure the NHTSA and EPA are really aware of the struggles they put each other through.
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It's a deadly circle, and I'm not sure the NHTSA and EPA are really aware of the struggles they put each other through.
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