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    Rod linkages and drum brakes: A 1965 Urania arrives

    I traded off a few cranksets yesterday, and acquired this disassembled oddity:



    Behind that mess is a DL-1-esque, 1965 Urania rod-brake roadster. Most of the hardware is Sturmey-Archer - including the dual, rod-brake-operated Sturmey drum brake hubs - with the pile of various other parts shown here on the table:



    Another interesting tidbit are its rims: 28", aluminum Westrick-pattern. Pretty unique in its own right.

    More photos to come - I'm going to get to work on it right now.

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    Sweet! I'd like to see some follow-up pictures later, Kurt! Roadsters are so fun.

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    Ask and ye shall receive, Nick:

    Some "before polishing" pictures:








    In progress:







    It turns out that while most of the hardware is present, a good portion of the nuts and bolts that hold said hardware together isn't. A couple of other bits are missing; I'm pretty sure the fellow who traded it to me might have misplaced them in his stash of parts.

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    1st: CHAINCASE FOR THE WIN!

    2nd: Where on earth are the seatstays sometimes?

    3rd: What are you polishing that bike with? It's looking great.

    4th: Where are all the other people commenting on the pile of awesome resting before my eyes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by banjo_mole View Post
    1st: CHAINCASE FOR THE WIN!

    2nd: Where on earth are the seatstays sometimes?

    3rd: What are you polishing that bike with? It's looking great.

    4th: Where are all the other people commenting on the pile of awesome resting before my eyes?

    -nick
    Nick, the seat stays on that type of bike are removable. The bike appears to be a Raleigh DL-1 Tourist clone or copy. But I will let Kirk confirm that. Neat bike regardless, I am waiting to see some close ups of the drum brake to rods linkage for future reference in hooking drums up to a Tourist.

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    I bet the curves in the seatstays will take some of the jolt out of road roughness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banjo_mole View Post
    1st: CHAINCASE FOR THE WIN!

    2nd: Where on earth are the seatstays sometimes?

    3rd: What are you polishing that bike with? It's looking great.

    4th: Where are all the other people commenting on the pile of awesome resting before my eyes?
    Fourth bike with a chaincase here, unfortunately, I'm missing its mounting bracket that fits to the downtube:



    That shouldn't be too difficult to fabricate.

    A second bracket also fits under the case; I have no idea what it looks like. Stays are bolt-on.

    I've alternated between Meguiars' Scratch X, Meguiars Fine Cut Cleaner #2, and KIT Scratch Out polish. It doesn't respond well to any of them; I even tried 3M rubbing compound. It comes out decent, but not fantastic.

    Quote Originally Posted by wahoonc View Post
    The bike appears to be a Raleigh DL-1 Tourist clone or copy. But I will let Kirk confirm that. Neat bike regardless, I am waiting to see some close ups of the drum brake to rods linkage for future reference in hooking drums up to a Tourist.
    Though badged Urania, the serial states it's a SCO (Smith & Co) produced machine. Chaincase has stamping at the back to correlate.

    The linkage was produced by Sturmey-Archer, but be forewarned that it is not even close to that of a Raleigh rod system for rim-brakes.

    Quote Originally Posted by garage sale GT View Post
    I bet the curves in the seatstays will take some of the jolt out of road roughness.
    Never mind that - take a good, hard look at the method used to rake the forks.

    -Kurt

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    Talk about relaxed angles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoboIsGod View Post
    Talk about relaxed angles.
    The 65 degree angles apply to virtually all roadsters with bolt-on seat stays.

    -Kurt

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    That looks like a huge pile of daydreaming, polishing, and not-getting-any-paying-work-done Fun.

    SCO-Smith & Co.

    Hmm. Wasn't Urania a Czech brand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coreyk View Post
    Hmm. Wasn't Urania a Czech brand?
    Yeah, Urania. Hmm. Where do those come from?

    ... wait for it ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
    Never mind that - take a good, hard look at the method used to rake the forks.
    What do you mean by this, Kurt?

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    Looks like quite a project, cool bike though. I am curious about the drum brakes, I noticed one of the rods mounts to the side of the head tube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roll-Monroe-Co View Post
    What do you mean by this, Kurt?
    They don't taper. The oval cross-section is flattened across at the curve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coreyk View Post
    That looks like a huge pile of daydreaming, polishing, and not-getting-any-paying-work-done Fun.

    SCO-Smith & Co.

    Hmm. Wasn't Urania a Czech brand?
    Danish, I believe, same for SC&O:

    http://www.urania.dk/

    Quote Originally Posted by Roll-Monroe-Co View Post
    Yeah, Urania. Hmm. Where do those come from?

    ... wait for it ...
    ...and I thought this name just might be disconnected enough to avert the pranksters. Guess not.



    (If you've seen it, you know it).

    Quote Originally Posted by mkeller234 View Post
    Looks like quite a project, cool bike though. I am curious about the drum brakes, I noticed one of the rods mounts to the side of the head tube.
    The rear brake has the linkage you see; the rod ends at another pivot arm under the BB, which is fastened with a clamp to the seatpost. This arm is supposed to be connected to a third arm running to the rear brake; said arm is completely gone, and has been substituted with a conventional cable, pinch-bolt, and the pin from a Weinmann/Dia-Compe brake lever to fit into the brake drum arm.

    If I can find some spare rod brake parts, I'll probably fashion a new rod and use a pair of spare pivots.

    -Kurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
    The 65 degree angles apply to virtually all roadsters with bolt-on seat stays.

    -Kurt
    And the seat stays remove, why? To facilitate chain and rear fender removal?

    I suppose since such a bike would be so impractical here in the mountains, I'd never really looked at one closely. I had no idea the seat stays unbolted on some models. What's the old saying? "Learn something new every day." I can check this off early enough today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
    And the seat stays remove, why? To facilitate chain and rear fender removal?

    I suppose since such a bike would be so impractical here in the mountains, I'd never really looked at one closely. I had no idea the seat stays unbolted on some models. What's the old saying? "Learn something new every day." I can check this off early enough today!
    I think the stays need to be removed to install the full chain case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkeller234 View Post
    I think the stays need to be removed to install the full chain case.
    The way this one slides on, it could be done without. Nevertheless, bolt-on stays seem to be a tradition with roadsters.

    -Kurt

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    Is that a Raleigh 20 hiding behind there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cycle_maven View Post
    Is that a Raleigh 20 hiding behind there?
    A Twenty, a Falcon, an '84 Raleigh USA Competition, and a modern Biria are in the background of those shots.

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