new inexpensive French-thread bottom bracket
08-30-10, 09:55 PM
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new inexpensive French-thread bottom bracket
Looks plain and medium quality (or less) but I wouldn't look down my nose at it.
https://harriscyclery.net/product/act...tm?preview=yes
https://harriscyclery.net/product/act...tm?preview=yes
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That is great to have that available. Now let's see if we can get some 26tpi headsets and bottom brackets!
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08-30-10, 10:00 PM
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And French headsets.
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08-31-10, 12:03 AM
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08-31-10, 07:22 AM
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I wonder how thick the walls are. The Sugino cups were thick enough to let you run a normal spindle.
Most of the old French BB cups were thin wall and needed a "5" spindle. It would be great if these let you use a "3".
Most of the old French BB cups were thin wall and needed a "5" spindle. It would be great if these let you use a "3".
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08-31-10, 08:41 AM
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i don't see how they can claim it is "waterproof". i don't see a seal around the spindle opening like the older "sealed" cups had. and $20 isn't bad. hey, kudos to harris just for stocking them and fulfilling a niche market need. who knows how much their cost is...
08-31-10, 09:43 AM
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That looks identical to Pyramid's low-end English BB cup set, with laser etching added.
At least it'll shut up most of the people who whine about the price of VO's BB.
-Kurt
P.S.: The crappy Pyramid BB's are $19.95 across the board as well.
At least it'll shut up most of the people who whine about the price of VO's BB.
-Kurt
P.S.: The crappy Pyramid BB's are $19.95 across the board as well.
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That's what screwdrivers are for.....
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Raleigh 26tpi headsets
I can supply NOS sets for 10 GBP each plus shipping. PLease email me at hilary dot stone at blueyonder dot co dot uk if you are interested.
I can supply NOS sets for 10 GBP each plus shipping. PLease email me at hilary dot stone at blueyonder dot co dot uk if you are interested.
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It may not be the best quality but if you are riding that old French bike enough to worry about wearing out a low-end BB then you should probably be springing for the good stuff. OTOH, for an old UO-8 or similar that you ride down to the pub occasionally I think it would work just fine. Assuming of course you can find an axle that will work.
On a related note...I remember reading in Sutherlands I think that the cups that come with a UO-8 cottered crank cannot be used with the axle for a cotterless crank because the bearing surfaces were a different diameter. I've not had any problem running a Stronglight 118mm axle in mine and I know many others have done similar conversions with a variety of axles. Just wondering if anyone has ever read that?
On a related note...I remember reading in Sutherlands I think that the cups that come with a UO-8 cottered crank cannot be used with the axle for a cotterless crank because the bearing surfaces were a different diameter. I've not had any problem running a Stronglight 118mm axle in mine and I know many others have done similar conversions with a variety of axles. Just wondering if anyone has ever read that?
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+1 for some 26tpi Bottom Bracket stuff. Somebody other than Phil has gotta be able to do those.
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Sugino French bottom bracket cups retailed for $16.95 about three years ago. I have a set that I removed from my Gitane just because I objected to Japanese cups on a French bike. I don't know how good the quality is, but I'm not going to judge by the number of notches on the lockring.
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Sugino French bottom bracket cups retailed for $16.95 about three years ago. I have a set that I removed from my Gitane just because I objected to Japanese cups on a French bike. I don't know how good the quality is, but I'm not going to judge by the number of notches on the lockring.
I'm not trolling, GB. I swear. Genuinely interested.
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I like to keep my early seventies French bikes all French or at least all European. The French did not use Japanese parts until later. I didn't say that I think that Japanese parts are of inferior quality. How did you infer that from what I wrote?
I am saying that I don't think you can judge the quality of bottom bracket cups by the number of notches on the lockring.
I am saying that I don't think you can judge the quality of bottom bracket cups by the number of notches on the lockring.
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I don't think it's possible to judge quality by looking at a picture, so I have to rely on things like brand reputation, personal experience and recommendations from people whose opinions I value.
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They're charging $20 because they think they can. Those cups are no different than any other cheap low end entry level cup which means they're worth $9.99.
https://loosescrews.com/index.cgi?d=s...id=23455217661
BTW...I just bought 3 sets of French Sugino cups from my LBS for $10.99 each.
https://loosescrews.com/index.cgi?d=s...id=23455217661
BTW...I just bought 3 sets of French Sugino cups from my LBS for $10.99 each.
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About 1972 Gitane started using Sugino Maxy cranks on their Interclub amateur racing model bikes. The selling point was that these were aluminum alloy cotterless cranks and were better that the cottered steel cranks previously used on that model.
They were "Melt Forged" which was a euphemism for pressure cast aluminum. The large chainring was swagged onto the crank arm. I suppose that this was an attempt to mimic how cottered steel cranks were made but the amount of aluminum material swagged over was too small and the chainrings came loose on a number of the first one released.
It took forever to get replacements from the Gitane importer in the US.
That experience forever tainted my view of the CHEAP melt forged Japanese cranks.
Starting sometime in 1972 Gitane started substituting Dia-Compe center pull brakes for MAFAC and Weinmann brakes on some of their entry level Gran Sport model. Some of them came with Suntour derailleurs too in place of Simplex or Huret.
It was the peak of the Bike Boom and European component suppliers were hard press to fill orders.
Gitane Gran Sports were like a box of chocolates - you never knew how they were equipped until you opened the box.
Around 1973 Gitane started supplying Sugino Mighty Competition cranks in place of Stronglight 93 cranks. Supply problems too.
By 1975 Gitane had switched back to mostly French components but it was too late because the Japanese manufacturers had already gotten their foot in the door.
Chas.