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Old 09-04-10, 06:49 PM   #1
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Trek 400 and the perpetual dilemma

I've got this way too tall for me Trek 400 and I'm in one of those direction/decision modes again. Do I keep it complete and make some tall person happy (or whom might just strip it his/herself and fixie it), or do I strip it down to bare frame and use the components to upgrade something I already have that does fit me. Consider this a rhetorical question if you want, or wax philosophically if that is your mood.

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Seat tube is about 25" long, or about 65cm ctt. Top tube is about 59cm ctc. Standover clearance is about 35" on flat tires, or closer to 36" with inflated tires. I'm close to 6' tall but my standover clearance fits me better on a 55-56cm frame (long torso).

Suntour Edge 4050 Accushift derailleurs.
Dia-Compe BRS Edge brakes.
OvalTech large chainring (like a BioPace).
Matrix 700c rims with Presta valve stem hole laced to Maillard 500 "Sealed Mechanism" hubs.

This is pretty much in a dust it off, oil it up, put on fresh tires/tubes, and go for a ride condition.

Here's some pics.

Hmmm, pics too huge, I'll have to edit down the rest before uploading them in another day or two.
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Old 09-04-10, 07:01 PM   #2
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next time you buy a good looking bike that is going to be too big make sure it is a 59 or 60 OK?

it is almost time for the snow to fly up there in cheeseland, perhaps your best bet is to sit on it (no pum) until the spring. I would certainly try and sell it whole as there may not be a huge market for the Suntour bits

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I would agree with BianchiGirl here, both on the point of making sure the next oversize bike you buy is 59-60cm, and that you should sell it whole. Component wise, you wouldn't really be making much, and it wouldn't be much of an upgrade (depending on what you already have). I think you're best bet would be to sell it whole, and while you would likely have better luck in the spring, there's no harm in at least listing it now, just don't take less than you want, unless of course you need the cash.
Hell, there's a good chance someone here is interested. The freakishly tall need bikes too.
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I would agree with BianchiGirl here, both on the point of making sure the next oversize bike you buy is 59-60cm, and that you should sell it whole. Component wise, you wouldn't really be making much, and it wouldn't be much of an upgrade (depending on what you already have). I think you're best bet would be to sell it whole, and while you would likely have better luck in the spring, there's no harm in at least listing it now, just don't take less than you want, unless of course you need the cash.
Hell, there's a good chance someone here is interested. The freakishly tall need bikes too.
Since when was 6'4" freakishly tall? (I'm 6'4" and 25" seat tube is right in my wheelhouse, maybe a little small now that I have a 27" seat tube bike) I think a tall person would be happy to get that as a frame/fork too, whatever you decide to do.
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The parts would be for personal projects and future repairs. I've got a couple non-indexed bikes that these Suntour parts might be considered an upgrade option. I've also got a 12speed that might be nice to bump up to a 14. So if I strip it I wouldn't be selling the components (directly).

I guess I could test the market with a CL posting like: Whole bike for $XXX or just the frame/fork for $xxx.

Does anyone know how well the Suntour Accushift stuff worked out and how it held up? Maybe I'll go research that.
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Pre-1991 Accushift was the least aptly named setup out there. Just drop the F in shift. It never seemed to index right or stay in tune more than a few rides. I can tell you that every bike I had with Mid-to-Low AccuShift was either run in friction or eventually converted to Shimano. Keep it whole and sell it in the spring.
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+1 Mediocre components. Sell the bike whole, use the profits to buy better components for your projects, or find a donor bike.

To me, not a dilemma. A well recognized brand and very sellable bike with mediocre OEM pieces = sell complete. Its when the bike has good bits on it the decision starts leaning the other way. I have sold several 25 inch frame bikes. One took a year to sold, two sold in a day, the other sold in a couple of days. Tall riders are looking too, and their choices are limited. So its normally just a timing issue.

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I have the same bike in 24", and there is nothing remarkable about the group set (Suntour Edge). I dislike the ratcheting action of the front shifter, and I've never tried the rear in indexing; friction is alright. It was a flat bar when I got it, so I can't comment on the original levers, but the calipers are solid in my modest experience with single pivot calipers.

I might also be biased, but that bike is ungainly to me in its 25" form.



Or what looks like to be another mintier 24" in the other thread:



+1 sell whole bike.
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There is tall blue and yellow Trek 400s coming out of the woodwork!
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Here is another one;



It's a fun bike (if it fits correctly).
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Thanks for the additional input on the components. Looks like it will remain intact (for now). I'll have to look around and see what I have for 700c tires to put on it for test rides (me first, tip toes on the pedals, and curb or ladder nearby to get on and off of it).

Only problem with a bike this size is the shipping if that becomes a need. Last larger framed bike I shipped cost over $100 to ship. I guess I could remove both wheels and the left crank and stuff it all into a smaller box. Oh well.

And, yeah, several Trek 400's all at once it seems.

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And, yeah, several Trek 400's all at once it seems.

I just sold this:





To get this:

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I have the same bike in 24", and there is nothing remarkable about the group set (Suntour Edge). I dislike the ratcheting action of the front shifter, and I've never tried the rear in indexing; friction is alright. It was a flat bar when I got it, so I can't comment on the original levers, but the calipers are solid in my modest experience with single pivot calipers.

I might also be biased, but that bike is ungainly to me in its 25" form.

Or what looks like to be another mintier 24" in the other thread:

+1 sell whole bike.
Haha wow i was just browsing threads, didn't expect to see a picture of my bike here! Glad you like it though, and ya I'm 6'2 and it fits perfect.
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Thanks treebound! I am its new owner. Will be prepped & then given to a friend; it's one size too big for me. Do not intend to trade out any components except the tires, tubes, bar wrap. Friend is not a hard-core rider & I will educate him that friction shifting is ok . It's Sun Tour friction shifting, after all. And the terrain is fairly flat here in SE Wis

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There was a bearing ball missing from one side of the front hub! Cones are mostly OK, two small pits on the side w/ only 9 balls, maybe I can find a way to keep the pits facing up. This is supposing facing-up is not bearing much load (would this help?). I doubt the bike has more than 200 miles on it.

Bought Schwalbe Marathon 700 x 32 tires for it. D'oh! they are way too big to fit through the brakes and the rear reflector bracket. This 1989 Trek 400 is missing a few cm wheelbase vs. my 1986 Trek 400. The Schwalbes would fit on my '86 bike. Hmm - I should try swapping the tires, but I have 700 x 35 installed on that one. The Schwalbes seem super-big, maybe not like normal x32s.

The AccuShift seems to work OK in index mode as far as I can tell.

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