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Old 09-05-10, 10:29 AM   #1
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Cool find in the trash 84 Fuji Junior

Walking home from dinner and drinks half in the bag with my GF when I see a frame in the trash. We are in the process of getting her a bike since she recently suffered a meniscus tear and can't run and do her usual workout routines. I notice the frame is quite small and the paint on it looked fantastic. I pick it up and lug it with us (her thinking I'm crazy) I start looking over it and thinking that it may just be her size though it does look quite small. Then I notice the stamping on the crank and I see 150. 150mm crank? really? who the hell is this thing for? is it a kids bike? sure enough, as I get home and look closely at the sticker that someone put on the downtube I can see the bike model name is "JUNIOR" the sticker on the bike is from a bikeshop in Northampton, MA which is kinda cool because I'm a UMass Alum and know the area well. At any rate, basic initial info I read says that these bikes don't have much value, however, I live in NYC. There are people looking for all sorts of crazy stuff. The paint is awesome on this bike, zero signs of rust. It has the Suntour AR rear deraileur on it but is missing the Front. The stem shifters are still there adn the cables and everything are clean. Looks like this bike has been sitting indoors for a lot of years. Perhaps the whole bike was thrown in the trash and someone just stripped the bars of it, it's kinda strange.

So now onto the questions; This bike takes 24" wheels. What is my best source to find some? It needs some other things like bars, brakes, stem, etc but the wheels are going to be the biggest challenge to find. spacing is 126mm. How should I look to gear it? do 24" wheels come in typical oldschool freewheel hubs or are they available with more modern hubs. I feel like 24" is the size on folding bikes, but I'm really not sure and I don't know if they use any proprietary parts.

I think it's worth spending a bit of money on. Living in a big city, there is a market for all types of stuff. This frame bike is 17"/43cm so it could be ideal for a kid or just a really short woman or something, you never know who is looking for what here in NYC
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Old 09-05-10, 10:32 AM   #2
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Here is a pic, sorry I don't have any better ones right now, but you can see the paint is great and the bike is really clean
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Old 09-05-10, 11:09 AM   #3
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So you need a FD, stem, handlebar, brake levers and calipers, wheels, tires, tubes, new cables, etc? I have got to think that unless you are going to keep it then it would be hard to clear any money even in a great market for niche items. I have to think that $100 would be a really high price for that bike. In my area I would probably have to give it away.
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Niagara Cycle has some 24" steel wheels. I would agree it may be a project with alot of effort and little return. I did seem some $410 BNX wheels you could use to FIXIE that LOL

http://www.niagaracycle.com/index.ph...sort=2a&page=1
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OP, I would agree with Johnny Alien's assessment if you were looking to resell and don't have a ready source of cheap parts, you'll put more into it than you'll reasonably get back. That said, if you'd like to make some money off it, PM me. Being the Fuji guy I am and having a 10yo son I'd love to get my hands on that to build up for him. I do have a lot of the required parts on hand, sans the wheels, which would be the challenge. I'd give 'er a good home Think about it. I can't offer a whole ton considering it would have to be shipped. Good thing is it would fit in a smaller box than an adult frame
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So you need a FD, stem, handlebar, brake levers and calipers, wheels, tires, tubes, new cables, etc? I have got to think that unless you are going to keep it then it would be hard to clear any money even in a great market for niche items. I have to think that $100 would be a really high price for that bike. In my area I would probably have to give it away.
the beauty is that I'm not in your area. Trust me, NYC is a whole different animal. I just sold an 83 nishiki that I redid for 250 bucks and it had downtube shifters! Granted, I spent closer to $350 on it, but the purpose of that bike was to get me reacquainted with wrenching and stuff so I was happy to get what I got for it and I could have gotten more, I had numerous people interested init and the first seller bought it.

In my opinion, the frame is in excellent enough shape that I can seek a decent amount for the bike as it will appear to be a like new bike and function well. what I have going for me is that I live on the Upper East Side, probably the most family friendly section of Manhattan and a very active cycling community since we are so close to Central Park. I'm quite sure that there are doctors and lawyers that are probably trying to get their kids into cycling and would be interested in getting them a road bike with gears but there are limited options, especially since the bike shops here don't have a lot of floor space and most certainly would never stock this kind of childrens bike. Handlebars, brakes, FD are going to be fairly easy to come by cheap, it's the wheels that are the challenge. I don't really know where to begin searching for used 24" wheels or where to buy them new. I've been wanting to learn how to build wheels so I'm wondering if this would be a good time to learn. that could be most cost effective if i can find something in 24inch size.
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Khatfull, I will seriously keep that in mind and yes, it would fit in a much smaller box!

Bianchi girl, that is about all i've been able to find for cheap are the steel wheels which the more I think about it, probably wouldn't be terrible for this. It's not like a parent is going to be taking there 10 year old out for a ride in the pouring rain. But it would be nice to lighten this bike up a little bit.

Also, I'm not even so set on flipping it, I'm contemplating just fixing it up and trying to donate it somewhere here in the city but you know how kids are; there needs to be a certain presumption of coolness. I'm kinda thinking that making it a flat bar with 7speed indexed shifting would be cool. I don't know if a kids hands would be able to work brifters very well but surely they can work flatbar shifters.
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Does anyone know what rim width I should be looking for? seems like a lot of the 24" wheels are listed as bmx and are 24 x 1.75 I have seen some 24 x 1 1/4 but what about 1 3/8? Came across some on ebay but for some reason, cut and paste isn't working on my pc!!!!!

Also, AEBIKE.com does have 8 speed integrated flat bar brifters so I'm actually thinking i could put an 8 speed freewheel on because the axlebending issue isn't really there with a rider that is bound to not weigh a whole lot. 8 speeds is prob a bit of overkill for a kid but at the same time from a markting standpoint it has a cool factor.
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Old 09-05-10, 01:09 PM   #9
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What about 650B's? If they fit you can build a killer small frame road bike.
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650B is larger than a 26" wheel so if he needs 24" then 650B would be way too big.

If the possible plan is to donate then I say sell to khatfull. At least you are guaranteed a small profit and you know it's going to someone that will really get use out of it.
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If you're planning on keeping it: You can get the Sun Rhyno Lite and Envy rims in 24X1.75 and 24X1.5 (507) sizes, respectively. Both 36h. QPB catalog page 640.
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Being the Fuji guy I am and having a 10yo son I'd love to get my hands on that to build up for him.
I recently picked up a Bridgestone 90 (junior ten speed) with 24" wheels for my 9 year old son and he loves it. We recently did a bike rodeo for his cubscout pack and he wanted to take that bike instead of the BMX bike like all of his friends were bringing.

I can't speak to the availability of the wheelset but everything else is readily gatherable. If you choose not to build it, it would be worth the cost of shipping for someone like Khatfull to have it built up for his son.

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If you're planning on keeping it: You can get the Sun Rhyno Lite and Envy rims in 24X1.75 and 24X1.5 (507) sizes, respectively. Both 36h. QPB catalog page 640.
Are those bare rims or built wheels?
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I'll let the OP drive the bus, his find and I'm glad for him. I'd have been skipping down the street with the thing slung over my back had it been me

...but if he decides that it's too much trouble for him to put back to riding condition I'm a willing recipient...it WOULD get built and used.
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I have a 24 inch Schwinn that my daughter rode when she was younger, so I wanted to share my experiences on finding the correct tires/ wheels. Since you have neither tires nor rims, you have some leeway, but you still need to be sure they are both compatable. According to Sheldon Brown, (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html) there are several 24 inch sizes. The tires on my daughter's bike had no readable markings, but were very narrow. The local former Schwinn dealer sold us 24x1 1/4-1 3/8 tires. They were a loose fit on the rim. They stay on, but you have to center them very carefully while inflating. After seeing Sheldon's info, I think I may have 547 tires on a 540 rim. I hope this helps, so you don't buy the wrong thing.
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I got one of those for free recently but it was beat so I gave it to my brother to go dock jumping haha
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I love small wheeled bikes. (I ride them myself!) They are super responsive and can accelerate like no other.
As for 24" alloy wheels, those can be found.
One option would be to redish a pair of BMX wheels. But there are 24" kids mountain bikes that are equipped with 5 or 6 -speed freewheels.
Terry bicycles also have a front 24X 1" wheel that you can look into.
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Yeah, I think the easiest (cheapest) way to get some 24 in wheels would be to find a children's mountain bike as a donor. I'm pretty sure I see these all the time. Finding a pair of high quality wheels might be an issue though.
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