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Old 09-07-10, 05:14 AM   #1
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Please help ID these 2 classics

I've been asked to buy these from someone who's inherited them, so they don't know much about the bikes. I've never seen something like the first one, can anyone make out the name?

Obviously the second is a Fuji from the 70's? Is a Fuji Racer also a "Special" Racer? Looks like "The Ace" is on the top tube? Thanks in advance for any advice on tubing or opinions of quality.
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Close up pics of the decals would help.

The Ace appears to be from the mid 70's.
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Rapheal Geminiani - Bike racer and Directeur Sportif to the great Jacques Anquetil.

Never seen one before. Its pretty cool though. Geminiani is a cycling legend, more for his association with Anquetil, but an accomplished racer as well.
Its basic low-end french, but an unusual name.
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I thought I answered this one earlier. The Fuji is a 1974 ACE. Nice bike!
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they both seem to have potential to be real great looking bikes once cleaned up and shiny. I really like the Fuji.
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Need more pictures of the Geminiani to determine much of anything. The bike could be old enough to have a decent frame, despite the presence of cottered cranks and lack of an integral rear mech hanger.

We need:
1) Pictures of the rear dropouts, where the back wheel inserts into the bike frame
2) Any stickers/decals on the bike (telling us what they say is always a help)
3) photo of the fork crown area, where the fork inserts into the frame
4) better photos in general

You could also measure the seatpost diameter. Anything over 26mm is a good sign.

The seat may be an Ideale, worth a bit depending on model. Those look like Simplex drops to me, but the photo isn't enough to make me know for sure

Quality french frames from the sixties did not always have integral hangers or cotterless cranks. It is likely the frame is your basic french entry level gaspipe (not a bad thing) but Geminianis were all over the place, and the bike may be a later boom model. It's hard to tell much from the current pictures.

Edit: back wheel is a mess. Rims look to be steel, but may be replacements. I also suspect the front mech is a replacement. Again, more pics. Also, certainly need a pic of the head tube area-- there may be damage there, or it could be photo distortion. Impossible to tell.
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I've seen the '74 Ace come with either the first generation Dura Ace or the standard early Suntour components. I'd love to see more photos of the drive side to see what you have.

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