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    Confession Time: I Now Have a Cannondale Problem

    It all began back in the Fall of 2002. I'd lived in NH for a year and had decided to reenter the world of bicycling. I assumed because I was in my mid 40s, overweight, and not very fit, I needed a more upright riding experience. My 1980 Schwinn Traveler 10 speed would no longer work for an OFG.

    So through the Fall and Winter I visited lots of LBSs and settled on "Comfort Bikes." I narrowed my choice to three models and called my nephew who wrenched his way through college at a LBS, and asked for his opinion. He said, "I'd buy the Cannondale." So in the Spring of 2003 I did.



    Then the vintage Schwinn bug bit, and hard, but that's another story.

    Flash forward 6 years to the winter of 2009. Old Fat Guy and Big Boss Man, among others, are showing off their beautiful rides, equipped mainly with modern Campagnolo Ergo Powered 10 speed cassettes, and the modern bug bites. I'm the only bidder on a new 2001 CAAD 4 frameset. Spend time talking to BBM on the phone and end up building this:



    Well, I thought I was over my C-Dale phase, when low and behold, 4 weeks ago, a 1993 R600 2.8 is listed on CL-NH. It's a criterion ready race bike, with Shimano 105 gear and SRAM CX barend shifters. All it needs is a cleaning, new headset, tires and bar tape. It turns out to be about a 9.5 out of 10. From 6 feet it looks factory fresh. Two nights ago I finished it. Rain has kept me from taking pictures. This is the seller's photo:



    So I think I'm done. I have all the Cannondales I need. Hah! Wrong! Am I the fool or what!?! I should stay off CL. Bad PB!

    Since I head to VT on Tuesdays, I check their CL, and low and behold listed the middle of last week is a "20 year old Cannondale Touring Bike." Against my better judgment I send an email and the seller texts me a very poor photo. But he's willing to drive 30 miles from his house to meet me.

    Well, it came home tonight and now I need to stop! Especially since it is a vintage C-Dale. Turns out it is a 1988 ST400, is 100% original except the brand new Panaracer Pasela Tour Guard Tires, and bar tape. It even has the front and rear racks for full sized panniers. Needs a good cleaning and the PB treatment to the paint, but should end up as a 7 out of 10, at least. Here's the grainy cell phone picture he sent me.



    Get behind me C-Dale! Confession over. Mrs. PB might have a fit when she gets home from her business trip.
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    You need help. Is there a 12 step (or 12 pedal stroke) program for caad addicts>

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    Maybe rccardr knows of one. He has the C-Dale problem really bad.
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    I stopped after five and sold two... okay I've thought about an old ST.

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    The ST400 came with the racks and everything?! and new Paselas to boot! Wow man that's about as good as it gets

    So is that one of their steel bikes or is that aluminum?

    That CAAD4 is sweet. I'd love to try a rocket ship like that out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by longbeachgary View Post
    You need help. Is there a 12 step (or 12 pedal stroke) program for caad addicts>
    He doesn't need a 12-step, he needs a full-blown intervention. And BTW - nice try on trying to pin me as an enabler. I will not shoulder your burden, my friend. You dug the hole, now you get to fill it up.

    But...... you gotta admit - that 10 speed Campagnolo is the One True Path, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
    Get behind me C-Dale!
    matthew 16:23?

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    Pastor Bob, that looks very similar to the R800 I used to have. It was too small and it caused too much pain, so I sold it. I am Cannondale free now, but I do have an 06 Specialized Sequoia Elite and I like it.

    There, I said it. Confession is good for the soul.....

    Seriously, ride whatever you enjoy. You don't have to limit yourself to one kind of bike.
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    I saw the title of the thread and I thought maybe you were purchased by Dorel Industries and kidnapped to China.
    "Where you come from is gone;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox View Post
    The ST400 came with the racks and everything?! and new Paselas to boot! Wow man that's about as good as it gets

    So is that one of their steel bikes or is that aluminum?

    That CAAD4 is sweet. I'd love to try a rocket ship like that out.
    The ST400 has an aluminum frame and cromoly steel fork.

    The CAAD4 Is a great ride. I can't wait to try the R600, but with a drive train of 53-42 X 11-21, it will not be here in the mountains.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigbossman View Post
    He doesn't need a 12-step, he needs a full-blown intervention. And BTW - nice try on trying to pin me as an enabler. I will not shoulder your burden, my friend. You dug the hole, now you get to fill it up.

    But...... you gotta admit - that 10 speed Campagnolo is the One True Path, eh?
    Not the enabler, the inspiration.

    Yes, the 10 speed Campagnolo gear is perfect. I must admit the 8 speed Shimano 105 on the R600 looks great, and shifts on the stand perfectly. The road test will have to wait until the rain ends and I kick my respiratory virus in its rump.
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    Hmm...I find myself free of Cannondales at the moment but I have this very nice vintage velcro C'dale water bottle + velcro bottle holder that was sent to me by a very nice gentleman up in NH. I made sure to save it when I sold my SR500....let me know if you want it back, it would look nice on that 88!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdgenbird View Post
    matthew 16:23?
    Yes, we call this a paraphrase.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabid Koala View Post
    Pastor Bob, that looks very similar to the R800 I used to have. It was too small and it caused too much pain, so I sold it. I am Cannondale free now, but I do have an 06 Specialized Sequoia Elite and I like it.

    There, I said it. Confession is good for the soul.....

    Seriously, ride whatever you enjoy. You don't have to limit yourself to one kind of bike.
    I spent equal time on my vintage Schwinns and the modern Cannondales this Summer. There's something about each bike that speaks to me. If it doesn't, I sell it.

    Quote Originally Posted by balindamood View Post
    I saw the title of the thread and I thought maybe you were purchased by Dorel Industries and kidnapped to China.
    Fortunately these are all pre-Dorel and 100% "Made in the USA" Cannondales.

    I should also mention my daughter rides a 2004 Cannondale hybrid (also USA made).
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Rings6Stars View Post
    Hmm...I find myself free of Cannondales at the moment but I have this very nice vintage velcro C'dale water bottle + velcro bottle holder that was sent to me by a very nice gentleman up in NH. I made sure to save it when I sold my SR500....let me know if you want it back, it would look nice on that 88!
    I might need to take you up on that. Although I tend to be leery of using old plastic bottles. The ST400 has mounts for 3 bottle cages. One is under the down tube near the crankset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
    I might need to take you up on that. Although I tend to be leery of using old plastic bottles. The ST400 has mounts for 3 bottle cages. One is under the down tube near the crankset.
    Me too, I never drank out of it but I had it on there for show. Maybe you could rig up a new bottle to fit the velco bottle 'cage'?

    PM me your address and I'll have it back to you in no time

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Rings6Stars View Post
    Me too, I never drank out of it but I had it on there for show. Maybe you could rig up a new bottle to fit the velco bottle 'cage'?

    PM me your address and I'll have it back to you in no time
    That is so kind of you! PM sent!
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    Quote Originally Posted by longbeachgary View Post
    You need help. Is there a 12 step (or 12 pedal stroke) program for caad addicts>
    Talk to Keith. I believe it is actually a 12 Fuji program, but I don't think you have even one of those yet, which means you have some work to do.
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    Bob. I have one of those velcro "cages" also. I'll try to remember to bring it on Saturday, then you can have a pair. Whoopee! And now that you have that ST400, I'm going to lean on you harder to join me and my '89 ST600 for a tour through NH. C'mon, you know you want to. I can tell you where I just picked up a nice set of front panniers.

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    You may want to post this thread on the Touring Forum, they seem much more righteous over there.

    Besides, you don’t go to a Bar to stop drinking. And, you won’t get any sympathy for your problem from this group of enablers.

    Take heart, having your particular problem is healthier than most of the things that humans get twisted into.

    Pastorbob, you just keep on looking for bikes you like, working on your bikes, and riding your bikes, and I think the problem will work itself out.
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    What no Silkroad with a headshock?
    I currently own two Cdale road bikes, a hardtail MTB, and a Jekyll...
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    I work at a cannondale dealer. I am always amazed how beautiful the paint shines on a cannondale with a simple wipe down with bike wash (finish line) not even having to go to the bike lust (pedros I think?).... These bikes are just well made. I work on a lot of bikes and sell giant and Cannondale is just a head above, however, the lower end bikes are suffering a bit as dorel shifts production and makes them more like the rest of the big names. In any case the new CAAD10 gets a glowing review on cyclingnews.com and I am seriously considering one, even though it is made in asia. Cannondale still believes in alluminum and so do I. People sight durability as a benefit of steel but it is also a benefit of a CAAD machine. These bikes take a beating, I have several customers with tens of thousands of miles on their C-dales having gone through almost every component on the bikes several times and the frames go on and on and on.
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    Umm, now that's a Cannondale problem I wish I had. Still waiting for my Cannondale road bike.

    If it all gets you to achieve your goals that you first set out for yourself those years ago, and become a happier PB, then herding a flock of wayward C'dales is a small price to pay.
    It's not about our needs, it's basically our desire. But I like to think when we come across someone more needier than us, we're in a position to effect some positive change.
    I realize I can't ride every bike I own as the years approach, but I got to enjoy each in some form and will likely offer them to someone who needs it more than me and make a difference and once again enjoy them one last time.
    Sorry to take a tangent on your thread.

    I'm waiting to see the 'after' pics of that tourer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox View Post

    So is that one of their steel bikes or is that aluminum?
    Cannondale only made aluminum frames (older forks were steel).


    I've got a few racing bikes (plus frames) from the 80s. I might have to get a couple back out on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beech333 View Post
    Talk to Keith. I believe it is actually a 12 Fuji program, but I don't think you have even one of those yet, which means you have some work to do.
    +1!

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    Bob, you do not have a problem.

    You have a solution.

    BTW, you will LOVE that ST. Mine is set up with full Ultegra 9 speed with DA DT shifters, a 12/27 on the back, triple rings.
    Very comfy, goes anywhere. Mid-pack on club rides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothenfield1 View Post
    You may want to post this thread on the Touring Forum, they seem much more righteous over there.

    Besides, you don’t go to a Bar to stop drinking. And, you won’t get any sympathy for your problem from this group of enablers.

    Take heart, having your particular problem is healthier than most of the things that humans get twisted into.

    Pastorbob, you just keep on looking for bikes you like, working on your bikes, and riding your bikes, and I think the problem will work itself out.
    I'll stick with the C&V crowd! But possibly this means I need to give up BF?

    It has been a great bike year, so far. I've almost doubled my mileage and saddle time over last year. I've had great fun wrenching my own projects. Met my neighbor Larry Tate and helped him considerably with his C&V projects (he's hooked and even prowling the local dump for bikes). Gave all my Raleigh 3 speed stuff to supton and helped him with a few wrenching issues. Met and rode with C&Vers BluesDaddy, ScottRyder and nlerner. Organized the upcoming C&V ride here in NH on Oct. 2nd. Bike Life could not be better but now I have too many C-Dales.

    Quote Originally Posted by turkey9186 View Post
    What no Silkroad with a headshock?
    I currently own two Cdale road bikes, a hardtail MTB, and a Jekyll...
    Jerry
    The Silkroad is what gets me into this trouble!!! I keep looking for one of those and finding these others!

    Quote Originally Posted by WNG View Post
    Umm, now that's a Cannondale problem I wish I had. Still waiting for my Cannondale road bike.

    If it all gets you to achieve your goals that you first set out for yourself those years ago, and become a happier PB, then herding a flock of wayward C'dales is a small price to pay.
    It's not about our needs, it's basically our desire. But I like to think when we come across someone more needier than us, we're in a position to effect some positive change.
    I realize I can't ride every bike I own as the years approach, but I got to enjoy each in some form and will likely offer them to someone who needs it more than me and make a difference and once again enjoy them one last time.
    Sorry to take a tangent on your thread.

    I'm waiting to see the 'after' pics of that tourer.
    Perfect tangent. I share the sentiment.

    If the ST400 cleans up anywhere as nice as the R600, I will be pleased. My guess is I will put it aside until the snow begins to fly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
    Cannondale only made aluminum frames (older forks were steel).

    I've got a few racing bikes (plus frames) from the 80s. I might have to get a couple back out on the road.
    Now I'm the enabler!

    Quote Originally Posted by ftwelder View Post
    +1!
    So Frank, a Fuji, problem, eh?
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