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Is a crack in the carbon faring on an Aero (HED) structurally a problem?

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Old 10-14-10, 02:33 PM
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Is a crack in the carbon faring on an Aero (HED) structurally a problem?

I have a Team Fuji that I'm working on cleaning up and flipping. Instead of dealing with cleaning up the Araya aero tubular wheel and buying a new tube/tire. I decided to get an aero clincher.
I have the opportunity to purchase a 650C, HED carbon wheel which has a smooth hub/bearings and is true, but there is a crack in the carbon faring.

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I have heard that the carbon is not a structural component, so it should have no effect on performance. At least, that's what I hear. Is this true or false? Any other comments welcome.
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Which part of this carbon wheel is classic or vintage?
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Nice troll, TTM

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Originally Posted by cudak888
Nice troll, TTM

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My thoughts exactly.
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Carbon Fiber has a failure mode best described as "An explosion of little sticks". It will do so with the slightest provocation, Carbon Fiber Bikes have been known to explode upon simply having the shipping box jostled a little to hard.

UPS requires all Carbon Fiber parts to be shipped with a Haz-Mat label because of this risk.
Be Sure you factor that into your shipping costs.
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Originally Posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox
Carbon Fiber has a failure mode best described as "An explosion of little sticks". It will do so with the slightest provocation, Carbon Fiber Bikes have been known to explode upon simply having the shipping box jostled a little to hard.

UPS requires all Carbon Fiber parts to be shipped with a Haz-Mat label because of this risk.
Be Sure you factor that into your shipping costs.

It's not the explosion that is so bad, but the resulting fire. Some research has shown that the Hindenburg may have been an early, secret Nazi carbon fiber related project that went horribly wrong.
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From what I remember, these were basically a regular aluminum rim, spoke nipples seated in the aluminum. THe CF is completely non-structural. If you are concerned about it cracking further or falling apart, overlay the crack with a layer of fiberglass. Once wetted out, the fibreglass will be transparent and give it the faring bit of strength with only a slight bulge.
Dont want to mess with fibreglass? Just cover the crack over with a sticker or some duct tape.
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Great advice! Thanks, GreyJay.
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Originally Posted by GrayJay
From what I remember, these were basically a regular aluminum rim, spoke nipples seated in the aluminum. THe CF is completely non-structural. If you are concerned about it cracking further or falling apart, overlay the crack with a layer of fiberglass. Once wetted out, the fibreglass will be transparent and give it the faring bit of strength with only a slight bulge.
Dont want to mess with fibreglass? Just cover the crack over with a sticker or some duct tape.
I had one. Yes that is correct.
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Originally Posted by bigbossman
It's not the explosion that is so bad, but the resulting fire. Some research has shown that the Hindenburg may have been an early, secret Nazi carbon fiber related project that went horribly wrong.


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Originally Posted by bigbossman
It's not the explosion that is so bad, but the resulting fire. Some research has shown that the Hindenburg may have been an early, secret Nazi carbon fiber related project that went horribly wrong.
Hahaha

To continue the trend...
  1. the tacoma narrows bridge was made of carbon fiber
  2. the titanic had a carbon fiber hull (the iceberg was actually a hunk of chromoly)
  3. ....

In all seriousness, carbon fiber is ok . Not my choice, but I try not to hate on anyone that rides it.
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Originally Posted by bigbossman
It's not the explosion that is so bad, but the resulting fire. Some research has shown that the Hindenburg may have been an early, secret Nazi carbon fiber related project that went horribly wrong.
Wow, perfect response. Now the thread is Classic
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My concern would be what if the non-structural c/f decided to separate and come into contact with a structural component on the bike? Could be a nasty encounter and wouldn't be worth the risk to me. How about just ripping the c/f off of that rim and running it naked?
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Originally Posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox
Carbon Fiber has a failure mode best described as "An explosion of little sticks". It will do so with the slightest provocation, Carbon Fiber Bikes have been known to explode upon simply having the shipping box jostled a little to hard.

UPS requires all Carbon Fiber parts to be shipped with a Haz-Mat label because of this risk.
Be Sure you factor that into your shipping costs.
No no no no no. Carbon fiber is designed to split along the threads, creating a jagged spear-like point. With a wheel you will only get a serious calf injury, but a broken fork essentially turns the bike into a rolling punji pit.

Personally, I would not do any repair on this wheel as it would increase the rim's weight causing the carbon fiber to break and attack you out of spite.
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