Double Vision: Chrome Paramounts descend amongst us mortals
#1
www.theheadbadge.com
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,496
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2401 Post(s)
Liked 4,350 Times
in
2,075 Posts
#2
www.theheadbadge.com
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,496
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2401 Post(s)
Liked 4,350 Times
in
2,075 Posts
#3
Freewheel Medic
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: An Island on the Coast of GA!
Posts: 12,878
Bikes: Snazzy* Schwinns, Classy Cannondales & a Super Pro Aero Lotus (* Ed.)
Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1448 Post(s)
Liked 2,177 Times
in
957 Posts
Very theological! See Genesis 13:2. Here's my paraphrase based on "The Message."
"By now Abram (sic. Kurt) was very rich, loaded with classic bicycles, and especially with silver and gold Schwinns and Raleighs."
"By now Abram (sic. Kurt) was very rich, loaded with classic bicycles, and especially with silver and gold Schwinns and Raleighs."
__________________
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com
#4
Freewheel Medic
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: An Island on the Coast of GA!
Posts: 12,878
Bikes: Snazzy* Schwinns, Classy Cannondales & a Super Pro Aero Lotus (* Ed.)
Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1448 Post(s)
Liked 2,177 Times
in
957 Posts
You know, I've always found the curve on the Weinmann levers more visually appealing to me than the curve on Campagnolo levers. This is a great picture as to why.
__________________
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com
#5
www.theheadbadge.com
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,496
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2401 Post(s)
Liked 4,350 Times
in
2,075 Posts
The standard-reach levers are a bit more visually appealing, but setting ANY lever to look good on the Campione Del Mundo handlebars isn't easy.
-Kurt
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Detroit
Posts: 10,327
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 39 Times
in
31 Posts
O, beware, my lord, of jealousy!
It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock
The meat it feeds on.
- William Shakespeare
(You see Kurt? You even got old Bill going! )
It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock
The meat it feeds on.
- William Shakespeare
(You see Kurt? You even got old Bill going! )
__________________
- Auchen
- Auchen
#8
Membership Not Required
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: On the road-USA
Posts: 16,855
Bikes: Giant Excursion, Raleigh Sports, Raleigh R.S.W. Compact, Motobecane? and about 20 more! OMG
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 70 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 15 Times
in
14 Posts
No they aren't...many, many subtle differences.
Aaron
Aaron
__________________
Webshots is bailing out, if you find any of my posts with corrupt picture files and want to see them corrected please let me know. :(
ISO: A late 1980's Giant Iguana MTB frameset (or complete bike) 23" Red with yellow graphics.
"Cycling should be a way of life, not a hobby.
RIDE, YOU FOOL, RIDE!"_Nicodemus
"Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred
Which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?"_krazygluon
Webshots is bailing out, if you find any of my posts with corrupt picture files and want to see them corrected please let me know. :(
ISO: A late 1980's Giant Iguana MTB frameset (or complete bike) 23" Red with yellow graphics.
"Cycling should be a way of life, not a hobby.
RIDE, YOU FOOL, RIDE!"_Nicodemus
"Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred
Which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?"_krazygluon
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Boston
Posts: 775
Bikes: 2020 Fuji Transonic; Zunow Z-1; All-City Macho King ACE; De Bernardi Track
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times
in
1 Post
Kurt-
How do you approach wrapping the bars without damaging the hoods (I assume you don't curl them upwards) and how do you get such a clean finish at the top end of the bar?
Thanks
How do you approach wrapping the bars without damaging the hoods (I assume you don't curl them upwards) and how do you get such a clean finish at the top end of the bar?
Thanks
#16
Decrepit Member
There's an article describing the process on CyclArt's website HERE. Doing it right, especially doing the prep work correctly to get a blemish free mirror-like finish, is pretty labor intensive.
CyclArt Price List. Scroll down to "New Chrome Plating & Masking"....
#17
Fat Guy on a Little Bike
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 17,229
Bikes: Two wheeled ones
Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1254 Post(s)
Liked 345 Times
in
174 Posts
I'm not normally much of a Paramount guy either...they were considered a bit of a joke by the time I was riding...but some of them, like these, make me ready to hail Waterford in the morning. Every now and then I still regret not buying Jim's when I had the chance.
#18
www.theheadbadge.com
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,496
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2401 Post(s)
Liked 4,350 Times
in
2,075 Posts
Far from it. I started another thread about the P13 geometry revision of 1971:
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...New-quot-P13-s
I wrap top down so they're flush at the top (Eddy style), and as for the levers, I follow Ray Dobbins' bar wrap trick:
https://www.raydobbins.com/molteni_replica/molteni_tip
That's RobbieTunes' line.
-Kurt
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...New-quot-P13-s
https://www.raydobbins.com/molteni_replica/molteni_tip
That's RobbieTunes' line.
-Kurt
#20
Chrome Freak
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kuna, ID
Posts: 3,208
Bikes: 71 Chrome Paramount P13-9, 73 Opaque Blue Paramount P15, 74 Blue Mink Raleigh Pro, 91 Waterford Paramount, Holland Titanium x2
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 26 Times
in
14 Posts
Visually appealing, maybe, but I find them really uncomfortable to use. I have very large hands, and they are still awkward to grip.
__________________
1971 Paramount P-13 Chrome
1973 Paramount P-15 Opaque Blue
1974 Raleigh Professional Blue Mink
1991 Waterford Paramount
Holland Titanium Dura Ace Group
Holland Titanium Ultegra Triple Group
1971 Paramount P-13 Chrome
1973 Paramount P-15 Opaque Blue
1974 Raleigh Professional Blue Mink
1991 Waterford Paramount
Holland Titanium Dura Ace Group
Holland Titanium Ultegra Triple Group
#21
www.theheadbadge.com
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,496
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2401 Post(s)
Liked 4,350 Times
in
2,075 Posts
My favorites are the medium-reach Weinmann levers on my '61:
-Kurt
#22
Insane Bicycle Mechanic
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: other Vancouver
Posts: 9,811
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 788 Post(s)
Liked 688 Times
in
367 Posts
If anyone's interested, there's a 25" chrome Paramount frame for sale at Portland's Community Cycling Center. It looks to be in reasonably good shape but lacks most of the decals (so I'm going by what the shop has on the tag). The tag notes that there's a little rust near the BB and a couple dents in the downtube. Still... mighty tempting, particularly since it's my size and I have a bunch of Campy NR parts looking for a home.
Sigh- too many projects right now anyway.
Sigh- too many projects right now anyway.
__________________
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
#23
www.theheadbadge.com
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,496
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2401 Post(s)
Liked 4,350 Times
in
2,075 Posts
If anyone's interested, there's a 25" chrome Paramount frame for sale at Portland's Community Cycling Center. It looks to be in reasonably good shape but lacks most of the decals (so I'm going by what the shop has on the tag). The tag notes that there's a little rust near the BB and a couple dents in the downtube. Still... mighty tempting, particularly since it's my size and I have a bunch of Campy NR parts looking for a home.
-Kurt
#24
Freewheel Medic
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: An Island on the Coast of GA!
Posts: 12,878
Bikes: Snazzy* Schwinns, Classy Cannondales & a Super Pro Aero Lotus (* Ed.)
Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1448 Post(s)
Liked 2,177 Times
in
957 Posts
Jeff,
If you don't need chrome, rust, nor dents, I could help you out with this 25" coppertone P. Let Kurt deal with the chrome restoration. He loves to block, align, and polish!
If you don't need chrome, rust, nor dents, I could help you out with this 25" coppertone P. Let Kurt deal with the chrome restoration. He loves to block, align, and polish!
__________________
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com
#25
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada - burrrrr!
Posts: 11,672
Bikes: 1958 Rabeneick 120D, 1968 Legnano Gran Premio, 196? Torpado Professional, 2000 Marinoni Piuma
Mentioned: 210 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1370 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,743 Times
in
934 Posts
Though never a Paramount fan, for personal reasons, I find your bicycles stunning in their presentation.
I was considering chrome plating my Cyclops (yes, I have found the perfect vintage road bicycle for me), until I saw how much $$$ chrome plating is these days! That said, I am still going to have a look at the idea but through different sources.
Cyclops_Out_Full_TQF_10..jpg
I was considering chrome plating my Cyclops (yes, I have found the perfect vintage road bicycle for me), until I saw how much $$$ chrome plating is these days! That said, I am still going to have a look at the idea but through different sources.
Cyclops_Out_Full_TQF_10..jpg