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Old 11-06-10, 03:32 AM   #1
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I think I'm going to regret this in the morning!

I spotted a Cannondale Black Lightning for sale for $65. Looked like a 52-53cm frame, pretty clean, and appears to be early 90s version. Being late in the day, I didn't think I had much chance at that price. Left a message with the seller.

I get a call around 11:30pm from the seller and informs me he's gotten many responses, and that a guy is coming over Sat. afternoon with $85. Wanted to see if I can beat that. Although it was still a deal, and I do want a Cannondale road bike in my collection....I didn't feel the right vibes from the guy pushing me towards a bidding war.
I told him I wouldn't be able to bid higher. But to keep me in mind should things fall through.

Well, I did have a shot at it. I walked away though. So, did I make a blunder? It was a tad small.
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Old 11-06-10, 03:50 AM   #2
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I spotted a Cannondale Black Lightning for sale for $65. Looked like a 52-53cm frame, pretty clean, and appears to be early 90s version. Being late in the day, I didn't think I had much chance at that price. Left a message with the seller.

I get a call around 11:30pm from the seller and informs me he's gotten many responses, and that a guy is coming over Sat. afternoon with $85. Wanted to see if I can beat that. Although it was still a deal, and I do want a Cannondale road bike in my collection....I didn't feel the right vibes from the guy pushing me towards a bidding war.
I told him I wouldn't be able to bid higher. But to keep me in mind should things fall through.

Well, I did have a shot at it. I walked away though. So, did I make a blunder? It was a tad small.
I think you did the right thing. If I want to bid on something I will do ebay. If someone advertises something for a certain price on a non auction site that is what I will pay or less.

If the bike was too small it wasn't going to be a good deal IMHOL.

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Old 11-06-10, 03:56 AM   #3
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I just saw the ad. If it were me.... I ask if you could come over with $125 and pick it up. It's worth it even if too small. From the looks of it, it would sell for $300 or better here in Seattle.
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Old 11-06-10, 04:04 AM   #4
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ok man just do it
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Old 11-06-10, 04:56 AM   #5
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If it's too small, all you lost out on was a flip. If your gut told you no, trust it and don't worry.
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Old 11-06-10, 07:44 AM   #6
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I had a similar thing happen here yesterday. I saw a Schwinn Peloton for $175.00. I emailed him and told him I would take it and was on my way. When he emailed me back, the price was up over $400.00 because of all the responses he had gotten and I could come if I could beat it. I never even responded.
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Old 11-06-10, 08:03 AM   #7
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I don't see anything wrong with sellers adjusting the price if they realize something was listed too cheaply. We all want good deals, but why shouldn't the seller get what it's worth? Just put "OBO" in the add.
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He was playing a game. After you made him a offer, he would of gone the the next guy to see if they would of make an even higher offer. You wouldn't of ended up with the bike.
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Old 11-06-10, 08:28 AM   #9
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You should have offered him $75. Isn't OBO the closest price to asking?
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Old 11-06-10, 09:06 AM   #10
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My rule is anyone who turns a CL posting into an auction I walk away from. The rules for CL are clear -- it is not an auction site. If I want to bid I go to E-bay.
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Old 11-06-10, 09:07 AM   #11
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What would bother me most is that he called at 11:30 at night. Granted, I'm up, but I try and maintain a level of civility in phonecalls to and from strangers - usually around 9am to 9pm, sometimes 10am.
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I say it as well last night. Too small. I also reject CL sellers who want to bid up.
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Old 11-06-10, 10:25 AM   #13
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I have had several Cannondale BL's All were the wrong size for me so they are all gone now. Many of them came with low end components depending on year but one I had was all Dura-Ace. I would junp on one if it was my size or even to small but not one that is to big. I like Cannondale bikes and still have two that I ride quite a bit. Some of the Cannondales have the short 38" wheelbase and that is the ones I like.
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What would bother me most is that he called at 11:30 at night. Granted, I'm up, but I try and maintain a level of civility in phonecalls to and from strangers - usually around 9am to 9pm, sometimes 10am.
I'm never sure the etiquette here. Most people use cell phones now a days, but many people who list on CL are putting their home phones. I missed out on a $50 Panasonic this way.
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Thanks for the feedback guys. It's understandable to read opinions for and against this buy. But reassuring some would do as I did.
I also felt there is a level of civility and etiquette that needs to be upheld on CL for it to be sustainable for folks who value such ethics and treatment. I also believe that sellers and buyers alike have choices. Seller was well within his rights to do as he pleases, it's his property. But it's also my money.

The bike was definitely worth more. I may have made a profit flipping it. But I wasn't seeking a flip, I was looking for a keeper.
For the asking price, a little smaller than ideal, I can accept, but as the cost escalates, I think I might as well find one in my size. Ultimately, whether I made the right decision is going to be answered by the next Cannondale I pursue.
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I would have came with 100$...took better photos and re-listed for 200$...made 100$ and been happy.
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The seller called me a little while ago. He sold it for $85 even though he had higher offers on the phone.
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I don't see anything wrong with sellers adjusting the price if they realize something was listed too cheaply. We all want good deals, but why shouldn't the seller get what it's worth? Just put "OBO" in the add.
Do you go to the store and get to the register and expect to pay more than the shelf price? Sorry CL is not an auction site. If someone lists something for too low a price that is their problem for not doing their homework. I have only had that happen one time on CL and while I could have easily afforded the bike and it was a good deal, that isn't how the game is played. If I want to "bid" on something I will go to an auction or bid on ebay. Another pet peeve of mine is OBO....that goes both ways, high and low.

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Just think of the guy who missed the free International.
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You did what you thought was right, so you did fine.

In my case, I would have sweetened the pot a bit, got in the car immediately, and picked it up then. I would not give him time to shop my offer, etc.

While Craigs List has "rules", many sellers and buyers ignore them. So I sometimes hold my nose and go ahead and make a deal, if the numbers are right. But I don't care for it...
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