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Old 11-06-10, 09:18 AM   #1
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My wife helped me bring home an Italian

As some of you folks are aware, I went throughout Italy with my wife on our honeymoon. It was a whirlwind tour of Rome, Florence, Venice and Milan and definitely ranks as one of the best times of my life. Citoyen was gracious enough to help me arrange for a custom frame from Daniele Marnati...a builder who served as a mechanic to several teams, including Benotto, and whose father was also a builder and mechanic of note. Meeting Daniele was thrilling and seeing his shop doubly so; he is the romantic image we have of Italian made frames...working alone, by hand.

No more talk...here's the frame. I'm planning on building it up with 11sp Campy, I'm still debating between SR and Athena. It will have an 80s Cinelli stem-bars combo and orange walled rubino pros (sorry grandbois).











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Gorgeous!

I can't wait to get to a large monitor to see the bike, an iPad is only so effective.

I do notice some chrome, so I can say now I'm happy you decided to include this on the final cut.

Glad you enjoyed Italy and had a wonderful honeymoon.

FWIW I find 11 speed Campy to be absolute overkill.

I can't imagine going higher on the food chain than Chorus.

After riding my Tommasini with 10 speed Chorus this summer, it's all I'd need.

In fact, much "more" than I need.
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Nice. Congratulations on getting married too! I think blue-walled Rubinos might look really great too...
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Old 11-06-10, 09:37 AM   #5
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Beautiful frame! Can't wait to see the pics after you have the whole bike finished.
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Aaron, beautiful frame, of course. Congrats. CdM was off by a decade when he hinted what you had bought. 1984 + 37= 2021. You didn't bring it back from the future, did you?

If you are going 11 speed, be aware that the 2011 Athena no longer shifts multiple cogs on the thumb shifter, a real disadvantage, IMO. You need to go Chorus or higher for 2011 or 2010 for full functionality in Athena.
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I love orange bikes.
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WOW! Nice! I can't wait to see the build pics!
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Wow, a beauty!
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I do notice some chrome, so I can say now I'm happy you decided to include this on the final cut.
Chrome good. Very good.

Nice frame! Congrats on the wedding. (Send pic of bike... .)
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Beautiful. All bikes that sexy should be orange.

I'd like to provide a counterpoint that I think that a bike with those classic lines would only look "right" with an all-alloy component group and handbuilt wire spoked wheels.

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Very nice!
Vintage Marnatis appear on ebay from time to time, but are certainly not common. They are invariably attractive.
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congratulations on all of the above-- that is gorgeous, and i'm sure she is too
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Good lord in heaven.

That's a bike alright. Drillium dropouts, nice touch.

Whatever way you choose to equip it, I look forward to the result. I also got a "LOL" out of the thread title.
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very nice machine. I love the head lug area and method of internal routing.
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The fork blades are curious, look forward to seeing the build pictures
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For those who have seen these lugs in un-massaged shape, you will know just how much work Daniele has done to make them look like they do now. This is not a case where the commonly-misused comment: "nicely filed lugs" would be out of place. This not like most frame using investment cast lugs that require no filing whatsoever (Can you understand that it is a pet peeve of mine that people say that frames that have no filing whatosever are well-filed?)

It should also be pointed out that the full Columbus MAX tubing set is also quite difficult to find nowadays. The drilled rear dropouts were an addition that Daniele decided on, the pump was sought out and found by my friend in Milan, Stefano, who coordinated everything. We had tried to give the frame the model name: "Max Headroom" but ran out of time before Aaron was supposed to pick up the frame. From start to finish, from receipt of the measurements and tubing, lug and fork crown choice to delivery, the frame took less than 2 months. Not bad when you consider that the chroming and painting had to be done by two third party suppliers.

Just to give you a bit more details about Daniele and his father. Daniele's father was the last personal team mechanic to Gino Bartali and the Legnano pro team. Daniele himself spent years as a team mechanic for a variety of pro and amateur teams before settling down in Milan as a mechanic and framebuilder. He has over 30 years of experience in framebuilding.
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As some of you folks are aware, I went throughout Italy with my wife on our honeymoon. It was a whirlwind tour of Rome, Florence, Venice and Milan and definitely ranks as one of the best times of my life. Citoyen was gracious enough to help me arrange for a custom frame from Daniele Marnati...a builder who served as a mechanic to several teams, including Benotto, and whose father was also a builder and mechanic of note. Meeting Daniele was thrilling and seeing his shop doubly so; he is the romantic image we have of Italian made frames...working alone, by hand.

No more talk...here's the frame. I'm planning on building it up with 11sp Campy, I'm still debating between SR and Athena. It will have an 80s Cinelli stem-bars combo and orange walled rubino pros (sorry grandbois).
I'd think the shortlist of components for a frame like this would be SR or record, with Chorus as the lowest I'd consider. This frame deserves to be equipped with the best.
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I'd think the shortlist of components for a frame like this would be SR or record, with Chorus as the lowest I'd consider. This frame deserves to be equipped with the best.
Bling factor, of course go for broke. Why not? It is a lifetime bike after all.

But for fast group rides, or just long rides in the country, Chorus works dandy.

Doesn't matter though, Aaron can figure this out for himself w/o my armchair quarterbacking from me.
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Wow. Can you post a picture of the inside of the bottom bracket shell?
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I wouldn't even deal with the 11spd stuff personally. I had the chance to get an Athena 11spd kit but decided to go with a 10spd Carbon Centaur group instead. A local guy has this beaut listed up on CL that I've been oggling at since he posted it up. Is kind of the same road you thinking of taking it down? I like the aluminum components instead of carbon on a lugged bike.
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Sweet frame! And congrats on getting married, and what sounds like an awesome honeymoon! Can't wait to see this thing built up.
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