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Old 11-13-10, 12:17 PM   #1
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Help identifying this french 60's Peugeot.

Hi,

I try to identify precisely which Peugeot I have. Actually I ride it everyday since I don't use my car anymore
I know my father bought it as a used bike in 1968.
I think it's a 1964-to-1967 PX-50 thanks to this catalog : http://mysite.verizon.net/vzerndgo/id78.html
and this one : http://mysite.verizon.net/vzerndgo/id71.html

Do you know a way to define from which year it is really?
Is it really a PX 50? Is this frame the same as the PX 10 but with 650B wheels?



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Old 11-13-10, 03:56 PM   #2
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Others will probably be more accurate, but I'd agree with your assessment, tending towards 66-67 rather than earlier. The earlier ones had the script style down tube decals. Frame is the Peugeot seamless tubing so not the same as PX10: more like the PL series (UO for us in North America). The shift levers and front derailleur (and possibly the rear as well if the bike is older than I think) are not original.

Cool bike! When your father got it where were you living?

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Old 11-13-10, 10:23 PM   #3
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I'm leaning toward calling it a PL-22. The frame and equipment closely resemble a UE-8 (the UO-8 equipped for touring), except for the cantilever brakes. The hubs, with circular cutouts in the flanges, appear very pre-1970s. But your frame and most of the equipment on it are at the UO-8 level. Key details are the stamped, not forged, dropouts, the non-integrated derailleur hanger on the right rear dropout, cottered crankset, and the industrial-looking lugwork. The pedals, with CPSC-mandated reflectors, appear to be non-serviceable units from the mid- to late-'70s. As Peugeot's share of bike boom sales declined, so did the component level.

If the wheels are 650B with fat tires (and not 27") this is a bike that was not made for export to the US.

At least from 1970 onward, despite marketing literature to the contrary, Peugeot frames at the UO-8 and AO-8 evels were not constructed of all-seamless tubing.
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I can't help much but I think the 'INOXYDABLE' sticker means it is a PX series bike. I think your guess of 64-67 is pretty close. Are there any mounts for a chainguard? It looks like some of the components have been changed over the years but no surprise there - the bike is almost 50 years old. I know the fenders, brakes and lights were all different in the 50's but I'm not sure what year the changes occurred.

In any event, it is a fine looking bike!
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Others will probably be more accurate, but I'd agree with your assessment, tending towards 66-67 rather than earlier. The earlier ones had the script style down tube decals. Frame is the Peugeot seamless tubing so not the same as PX10: more like the PL series (UO for us in North America). The shift levers and front derailleur (and possibly the rear as well if the bike is older than I think) are not original.

Cool bike! When your father got it where were you living?

Mark
Thanks Mark for your answer.
You're right, the front derailleur, the rear shift level are not the original since it broke and had to be replaced. My father used it a lot before I took over
Actually, my grand-father bought it for my father's 15th birthday (in 1968). I was born in 1986 so I was not there. But I think he bought it in eastern France (Vesoul) where they lived.
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I'm leaning toward calling it a PL-22. The frame and equipment closely resemble a UE-8 (the UO-8 equipped for touring), except for the cantilever brakes. The hubs, with circular cutouts in the flanges, appear very pre-1970s. But your frame and most of the equipment on it are at the UO-8 level. Key details are the stamped, not forged, dropouts, the non-integrated derailleur hanger on the right rear dropout, cottered crankset, and the industrial-looking lugwork. The pedals, with CPSC-mandated reflectors, appear to be non-serviceable units from the mid- to late-'70s. As Peugeot's share of bike boom sales declined, so did the component level.
Hi oldbobcat! I can see you know a lot about these old Peugeot :-) It's from 60's for sure. Can't be younger than 1968.
You're right with the pedals, I found it on a late 70's Motobecane because the original ones broke! So I had to replace it.

The wheels are 650B, they are the original ones. And so is the crankset, so for me it's not a PL-22 (mine is 8 speed whereas the PL-22 is 3 speed).

I have a problem with the cranks these days (I think I ride it too much for a so old bike...), the little part which blocks the crank on the axle broke as I was tightening it. I don't know where to find a replacement part... I tried with a screw but it dosn't work.

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I can't help much but I think the 'INOXYDABLE' sticker means it is a PX series bike. I think your guess of 64-67 is pretty close. Are there any mounts for a chainguard? It looks like some of the components have been changed over the years but no surprise there - the bike is almost 50 years old. I know the fenders, brakes and lights were all different in the 50's but I'm not sure what year the changes occurred.

In any event, it is a fine looking bike!
Hi Iowegian. Yes there was a chainguard, but it was bent too much so my father took it away mybe 20 years ago.
You're right, some components like derailleurs, pedals, saddle, shift levels have been changed over the year.

Thanks everyone for your kind answers.
I think I'll call it a 66-67 PX-50, a lot of "clues" go in this sense.

Next "identifying" session will be a late 70's or early 80's motobecane :-)
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