Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 31

Thread: Stem Shifters

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Waukesha WI
    My Bikes
    1978/79 Trek 736; 1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport; 1984 Schwinn Voyageur SP; 1985 Trek 620; 1985 Trek 720; 1986 Trek 400; 1987 Schwinn High Sierra w/ Drop Bars
    Posts
    4,033
    Mentioned
    28 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Stem Shifters

    Just out of curiosity...

    Why are stem shifters so frowned upon?
    *Recipient of the 2006 Time Magazine "Man Of The Year" Award*

  2. #2
    Senior Member Pars's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Aurora, IL
    My Bikes
    '73 Raleigh RRA, 1986 Trek 500 commuter
    Posts
    2,070
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I always felt like I lost power when I reached up to shift, as my position on the bike changed (and not for the better ). DT shifters I just drop my arm right onto them with no real loss. But its been years since I've ridden a bike with them.

  3. #3
    Oh Snap, not again... atmdad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Cardiff, Ca
    Posts
    608
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Like he said, not a big fan of DT's either, but much better than stems. I like the bar-ends or modern brifters. Dealing with stem shifters throw off my center of balance for a short period if i'm coming out of the drops for a gear change or even just toodling about town.

  4. #4
    over the hill juls's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    missouri
    My Bikes
    87 Terry Despatch-76 AD Inter 10 Mixte-87 Fuji 450 SE
    Posts
    905
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I always thought they would be better oriented on the horizontal part of the stem (pushing down to climb gears.) I think they came on a lot of lower end bikes, and so are equated as such (low end) Cheaper to manufacture-I'm sure. I've used both, but am partial to the dt as it presents a cleaner look-and less cable. I do wonder if it is a myth or actual that you could impale yourself on thos tall schwinn shifters.....

  5. #5
    Senior Member randyjawa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada - burrrrr!
    My Bikes
    1982 Tomassini, 1963 Peugeot PX10, and eight special issue Canadian lightweights...
    Posts
    5,897
    Mentioned
    15 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    For me, the problem with stem shifters is that they cause one's center of gravity to rise slightly when shifting, as opposed to lowering one's c of g when using down tubes. It is the upwards c of g change that causes the awkward feel of the shifters.

    And, they look awful, in my opinion.

    I, too, love Barcon shifters though I do not have many bikes with them mounted these days:-(

  6. #6
    people's champ marley mission's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    joisey
    Posts
    1,517
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    i like em
    Kleins, Kleins...everywhere there's Kleins

  7. #7
    DRF aka Thrifty Bill wrk101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    The NC Mountains
    My Bikes
    Too many to list, all vintage
    Posts
    18,867
    Mentioned
    71 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Only because they tended to be put on cheap bikes. So its not so much the stem shifters, its the heavy, cheap bike attached to them (yes, there are exceptions).

  8. #8
    Motorcycle RoadRacer cehowardGS's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    3,799
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
    Just out of curiosity...

    Why are stem shifters so frowned upon?
    Just speaking for myself, long ago I read how stem shifters and brake extensions were a sure way to id a NON-CLASS BIKE!!

    Evrery since then, I don't even consider any bike with stem shifters and brake extensions.. you can add kickstand in with those also..

  9. #9
    Senior Member auchencrow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Detroit
    Posts
    10,266
    Mentioned
    30 Post(s)
    Tagged
    3 Thread(s)
    They were used on entry-level bikes in the bike boom, when a lot of newbie riders wanted a 10-speed, but were more accustomed to riding upright (cruiser-style), so they rode on top of the bars instead of in the drops.
    - Just like the added safety levers, the stem mounted position was more convenient.
    - Auchen

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    7,955
    Mentioned
    16 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Huret stem shifters came standard on my '74 Raleigh Super Tourer--full 531 frameset, Huret Jubilee mechs, Stronglight 93 cranks:



    In other words, they weren't always found on low-end bikes (though they mostly were).

    Neal

  11. #11
    DRF aka Thrifty Bill wrk101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    The NC Mountains
    My Bikes
    Too many to list, all vintage
    Posts
    18,867
    Mentioned
    71 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by cehowardGS View Post
    Just speaking for myself, long ago I read how stem shifters and brake extensions were a sure way to id a NON-CLASS BIKE!!

    Evrery since then, I don't even consider any bike with stem shifters and brake extensions.. you can add kickstand in with those also..
    Be careful with any hard and fast rule. You could get a nice Paramount in the 1970s with turkey levers. But 99.9% of the time, it is a sure sign of a cheap bike.

    Consider adding QR hubs to your quick glance list. As a minimum, a decent bike will almost always come with at least a QR front, and usually, both ends QR.

  12. #12
    Senior Member auchencrow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Detroit
    Posts
    10,266
    Mentioned
    30 Post(s)
    Tagged
    3 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
    Huret stem shifters came standard on my '74 Raleigh Super Tourer--full 531 frameset, Huret Jubilee mechs, Stronglight 93 cranks:

    ....
    Neal - Your Super Tourer is one slick bike.
    - Auchen

  13. #13
    Senior Member ColonelJLloyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Louisville
    Posts
    8,196
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    My wife has a 1985 Bridgestone 300 mixte with Shimano Light Action stem shifters (and derailleurs). She likes the position of the stem shifters. That bike shifts as good as any bike I've owned or worked on.
    Bikes on Flickr
    I prefer email to private messages. You can contact me at justinhughes@me.com

  14. #14
    people's champ marley mission's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    joisey
    Posts
    1,517
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
    But 99.9% of the time, it is a sure sign of a cheap bike.
    haha - arent those the best kind
    maybe its just me but i love riding junk
    Kleins, Kleins...everywhere there's Kleins

  15. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    7,955
    Mentioned
    16 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
    My wife has a 1985 Bridgestone 300 mixte with Shimano Light Action stem shifters (and derailleurs). She likes the position of the stem shifters. That bike shifts as good as any bike I've owned or worked on.
    I put them on my wife's bike as well--SunTour Power Shifters--and they work great. The left one is just a dummy as this bike is set up with RD only:



    Neal

  16. #16
    Senior Member ColonelJLloyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Louisville
    Posts
    8,196
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    There he goes again with that inside chainring only business. Tsk tsk.
    Bikes on Flickr
    I prefer email to private messages. You can contact me at justinhughes@me.com

  17. #17
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    7,955
    Mentioned
    16 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
    There he goes again with that inside chainring only business. Tsk tsk.
    Ha! I'm an unrepentant functionalist!

    Neal

  18. #18
    Senior Member ColonelJLloyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Louisville
    Posts
    8,196
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I like a guy who sticks to his guns! It's the only thing we have to pick on you about around here.
    Bikes on Flickr
    I prefer email to private messages. You can contact me at justinhughes@me.com

  19. #19
    Chrome Freak Rabid Koala's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    My Bikes
    1971 Chrome Paramount P-13, 1973 Gitane Tour de France, 1974 Raleigh Professional
    Posts
    3,197
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I had them on one bike, a Nishiki International. I was prepared to really hate them but wound up neither loving or hating them. SunTour Power Shifters they were, and I knew just how to bump them to shift. I would prefer barcons, or thumb shifters on a tourist, but I really don't care for downtube shifters as I ride very large frames.
    1971 Paramount P-13 Chrome
    1973 Paramount P-15 Opaque Blue
    1973 Gitane Tour De France
    1974 Raleigh Professional
    1991 Waterford Paramount
    Litespeed Tuscany
    Holland Titanium

  20. #20
    Bike Junkie roccobike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    South of Raleigh, North of New Hill, East of Harris Lake, NC
    My Bikes
    Giant OCR-C, Specialized Tarmac, Specialized Stumpjumper FSR, Stumpjumper Comp, 05 Rockhopper, 88 & 92Nishiki Ariel, 01 Bianchi Campione, 87 Centurion Ironman, 92 Paramount, 97 Lemond
    Posts
    9,050
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    One additional item is stem shifters require a longer cable so that could impact shifting especially with index shifters. It's not a big effect, but it's there. Personally, I prefer stem to downtube. I havn't tried barcons, but I will soon.
    Roccobike BF Official Thread Terminator

  21. #21
    Senior Member Michael Angelo's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Hurricane Alley , Florida
    My Bikes
    Treks (USA), Schwinn Paramount, Schwinn letour,Raleigh Team Professional, Gazelle GoldLine Racing, 2 Super Mondias, Carlton Professional.
    Posts
    3,377
    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I have seen stem shifters on paramounts

  22. #22
    Senior Member mazdaspeed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    WA state
    Posts
    4,816
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Because they're awkward to shift unless you're in a super upright position.

  23. #23
    Senior Member Pars's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Aurora, IL
    My Bikes
    '73 Raleigh RRA, 1986 Trek 500 commuter
    Posts
    2,070
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Angelo View Post
    I have seen stem shifters on paramounts
    Yeah, and they offered turkey wings as an option as well. Shows how out of touch they were with the developing market in the '70s IMHO.

  24. #24
    Senior Member Ultraslide's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Evansville, IN
    My Bikes
    73 Raleigh Supercourse, 99 Specialized Stumpjumer, 08 LeMond Tourmalet
    Posts
    782
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Don't care for stem shifters because it clutters the cockpit. My wife, however, loves the stem shifters on her bike because it's an easy reach with upright bars.
    All I'm saying is ... large pigs can run faster than you think.

  25. #25
    Senior Member CMC SanDiego's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    San Diego
    My Bikes
    Ti Mongoose Pro-Cipressa w/DA, Giordana-XL Strada, Eddy Merckx OS Strada, Ti DBR-Mtn (hardtail), Fuji-Touring Series V, Raleigh SuperCourse X-tracycle, Burley Tandem
    Posts
    670
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I've actually had requests to put stem shifters on several bikes. One was a mixte, set up for more upright riding. another had clamp-on down tube shifters, and the rider wasn't comfortable reaching down to shift. I think they work great, and if that's the preference, I'm happy to oblige.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •