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Old 12-12-10, 11:30 AM
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Is this a Paramount?

It was sold to me as a generic 853 steel Schwinn frame, possibly Waterford, possibly Taiwanese. There is no serial number, or other indicator of origin, and now I'm trying to sell it. Since the listing, a few people have emailed telling me it either is or is not a Paramount (note that I never claimed that it was). Well, is it, C&V posters? If so, is it a Japanese Paramount, or a Waterford one? Or some Taiwanese frame of dubious quality? You tell me. Thanks.




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Possibly a late 90's super sport? They were made with 853.
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Kinda looks like my ol'Peloton. It is 853 and has the cable stops at the 7 o'clock postion on the top tube. The rear stays look the same too.



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+1 on either Super Sport or Peloton.

The only Paramount made from 853 was the Match built model and it had a lugged frame.
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Thanks guys. So any idea if it's Taiwanese or American?

Also, what are your opinions on the ride? I never actually built this one up, and now I'm second-guessing my selling it rather than actually riding and racing on it this season.

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The Match built lugged 853 Paramounts and the Serotta built titanium Paramounts were made in the U.S., while the contemporay (late 90s) TIG welded 853 Peloton and Circuit were built in asia.

The geometry of the Paramont, Peloton and Circuit were identical, but IIRC the Peloton and Circuit had aluminum forks while the Paramount fork was steel.
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