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rhm 04-05-11 07:32 AM

Condition-wise, that Voyageur is a pretty good match for my Bianchi (i.e. needs paint) but the latter is a 55 cm frame.

Fast Cloud 04-05-11 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 12460680)
Condition-wise, that Voyageur is a pretty good match for my Bianchi (i.e. needs paint) but the latter is a 55 cm frame.

Have you got any pics? I scrolled back but didn't see any...I've got a lot of the stuff off of it left if you're interested in a parts swap as well.

Otto Rax 04-08-11 09:29 AM

1991 Cannondale SC600 Export crit frameset
60cm ctc
Gloss black with white splatter and hot-pink decals
VGC

ISO: 60cm or larger Schwinn Voyageur SP or Passage frame

rat fink 04-09-11 02:44 PM

Hey remember that awesome frameset I just got through this thread? Well, it doesn't fit me either. Whoops, my bad!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_w...0/IMG_1253.JPG

Anyway, I'm looking for a frameset in the 54-56cm range. Race oriented, all materials eligible, all offers considered. I have lot's of high end goodies to add if there is considerable value difference. Don't worry about the fit of this frame, it's standard enough, but 90% of stock frames don't fit me. I should be able to figure out if a frame you offer will fit me with a little research, so don't hesitate to inquire.

Framset:

- circa 83 Colnago Super frame and fork with Chris King headset
- top tube is 55.5cm c-c
- seat tube is 55.5cm c-c
- condition: fabulous

realestvin7 04-09-11 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by rat fink (Post 12482721)
Hey remember that awesome frameset I just got through this thread? Well, it doesn't fit me either. Whoops, my bad!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_w...0/IMG_1253.JPG

Anyway, I'm looking for a frameset in the 54-56cm range. Race oriented, all materials eligible, all offers considered. I have lot's of high end goodies to add if there is considerable value difference. Don't worry about the fit of this frame, it's standard enough, but 90% of stock frames don't fit me. I should be able to figure out if a frame you offer will fit me with a little research, so don't hesitate to inquire.

Framset:

- circa 83 Colnago Super frame and fork with Chris King headset
- top tube is 55.5cm c-c
- seat tube is 55.5cm c-c
- condition: fabulous

You looking for a possible in 54 ctt or ctc?

rat fink 04-09-11 03:15 PM

ctc.

scubaguy4409 04-12-11 06:41 AM

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Great idea. I have to offer an old Gitane TDF frame with a bent fork steer tube. Can be fix but you would have to most likely cut the old one off, reamed out and replaced with another french (or not) stem from another old fork. It's a small frame around a 52cm measured from center to center of top tube
.http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=197541
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=197540
Has the old Huret honey comb rear dropouts. Don't worry about the color, for the most part its been sanded down and better yet was painted by the previous owner with cans of spray paint so brake cleaner does a good job of removing. Does come with the fork which is chrome on the lower ends. mcrane428@msn.com

:andrew 04-13-11 04:06 PM

I want to trade this 1983 Peugeot P6 for a bike that fits me better of equal value. This bike's seat to measures 54cm (from the center of the BB to to the top of the seat tube. I am looking for a bike that is 56cm (preferably another French bike). The bike unfortunately has a bent fork, but everything else is in good shape.
Components:
Huret front and rear derailleurs
Weinmann brakes
Simplex quick release skewers
Rigida 27 1/4 wheels
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5027/...4458ecafff.jpg
IMG_1272 by ANDREWFR, on Flickr

irvri 04-14-11 12:14 AM

Have a Vitus 979 frame, very scratched and lots of nics. not big dents. around 56cm. Looking for a frame around 50cm. Will update with pics and better description.

Otto Rax 04-15-11 09:05 AM

SORRY FOR THE LARGE PHOTOS

UP FOR TRADE: 60cm Cannondale RS600 3.0 1991 frame.

LOOKING FOR: a 60cm or larger Schwinn Voyageur SP or Passage frame. Will consider others though, I like having conversation-piece frames on my walls. Prefer Schwinns, but I'm not too picky.

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/x...NDALE-0463.jpg
http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/x...NDALE-0465.jpg
http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/x...NDALE-0486.jpg

BattleRabbit 04-15-11 09:00 PM

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...d/e729a53d.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...d/a7b7483b.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...d/66fdadb0.jpg
1989 Bianchi Strada LX. Bike will include seat, seatpost, stem, bars, celeste cage, brake levers, calipers and pads. Will not include the pictured wheels and cranks*. Frame is in good shape, there is a little rust on the outside of the cups on the steer tube, and a small amount of surface rust between the seat stays. I believe the bike to be a 62cm.

I'm looking to trade for something of equivalent quality in about a 56cm. I prefer Italian bikes, but would be open to anything. Bikes that came with 700c wheels are preferred, but if anyone has a decent Masi or Motobecane I would be happy to work something out!

*Those wheels/crank are only on the bike for storage purposes. The bike was never ridden as a fixed gear and all braze ons are still present. I'll need to check my parts box, and if I still have the original suntour downtube shifters those will be included as well.

noglider 04-16-11 08:44 PM

BattleRabbit, what size frame is that?

aixaix 04-17-11 10:31 AM

Here's a long shot. I have a 58cm Cinelli SC from about 1968. It is a repainted frame and is virtually flawless. Much as I love it, it is an inch too big for me to really get comfortable on. I'm looking for the same thing in a 56cm. http://www.flickr.com/photos/2816407...7623030836354/

Charles Wahl 04-17-11 01:06 PM

I don't have anything that I want to trade, except possibly a 63 cm Jeunet R531 frame, light for a large frame, but in poor cosmetic shape (but no real damage!) You can see it here.

I'm looking for a double-butted road frame with fender eyelets, size 54-56 C/T. I guess I'd also take a Raleigh Super Course, or a Trek, something with 531 frame tubes in other words. It's for a "fenders bike" for my wife.

ColonelJLloyd 04-17-11 01:31 PM

Charles, that's a Jeunet 630. I have the same bike in the same size.

shnibop 04-17-11 05:21 PM

i've got this Gios Torino i'd like to trade up in size. Columbus SL, drilled rear drop outs, beautiful lug work, yummy.

it is marked as a 58, but actually measurements are:

ST 56.5 C to C
ST 57 C to T

TT 55 C to C

stand over height is 32-32.5 inches on 700c/23 wheels/tires

the sad part is i've spent some time collecting a full panto group while sorting things out (building a wheelset and finding the right spindle width-crank combination), and now it's just too small.

i need something in a 59-60 (or 61 if it be a Gios), open to other fine italian frames (Colnago, Bianchi, you name it), but i'd most want to find another Gios, or let me know what you've got :) a little beat up is fine

frame is in excellent condition. paint has a few scrapes and chips, namely the spot by the drive side shifter where the caliper hit it at one time and the previous owner didn't take care of it. frame was repainted at some point by Betsy (reportedly JP Weigle's ex wife who use to paint his frames). the paint job is equal to or better than most any factory work. the main decals are 99% intact and do not appear to be repros, Columbus decals on fork blades are definitely not in the original placement, the wreath decal (remnants on top tube) should be on the fork.

absolutely no dents or dings, all threads are 100% intact and solid, no rust to inside of tubes, only minor surface rust on drop outs and chip by shifter.

see gallery for detailed/hi res photos on decals/etc. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexjri...7626395272633/


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5224/...2bbc7f62_b.jpg
IMG_0949 by shnibop, on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5065/...094676ca_b.jpg
IMG_0946 by shnibop, on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5102/...822dcc96_b.jpg
IMG_0931 by shnibop, on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5182/...6f507b7b_b.jpg
IMG_0940 by shnibop, on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5104/...059722db_b.jpg
IMG_0933 by shnibop, on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5309/...8650f1b7_b.jpg
IMG_0939 by shnibop, on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5143/...5227e7e3_b.jpg
IMG_0944 by shnibop, on Flickr

BattleRabbit 04-17-11 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 12517198)
BattleRabbit, what size frame is that?

It's in the post, but I am 95% sure that it is a 62cm.*

*I would have sent you a PM, but I don't have 50 posts yet.

Also, upon closer inspection the frame is missing the under-BB cable guide. A Shimano branded one is available for like $3 online. Other than that the braze-ons are 100% intact. The frame will include the pictured white brake cable housings/cables.

irvri 04-20-11 02:33 AM

Looking to trade this Trek 5000 (frame only) for something comparble in my size, 50cm. There are scratches & touch up paint.
Seat tube: 53cm, Top tube: 56cm

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/1...5000resize.jpg

Guerc 04-20-11 09:44 AM

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Really nice Guerciotti in extra small size, far too small for me. I refuse to let some kid turn it into a hipster fixie. I'd prefer to trade for 53-55cm c-c, Campy parts, or whatever. I think it's an early '70's frame, was probably repainted in late '80's with whole set of modern braze-ons added. The headtube was nicely masked off and preserved, and rest of bike resprayed with eye-shocking neon fade typical of the era. I added the set of reproduction decals from the guy in Australia.

47cm seat tube c-c
51cm top tube c-c

The headtube badge and frame cutouts are identical to those on CRV "Early '70's" Guerciotti. They predate the whole "Star" logo.
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Ita..._J-Bissell.htm

The lugwork is outstanding. Every lug has a cutout of some kind, and points nicely filed down. This is my 6th Guerciotti, and my 3rd one currently. The workmanship on this one is the nicest that I've seen. Campy dropouts, SLX spirals in steerer tube, 27.2 seat tube, so no doubt Columbus SL tubing. Spacing 120mm but can no doubt be spread to modern 130mm.

Repaint is excellent. Looks like it was barely ridden post-repaint.

I'd trade for something 52-55cm c-c. Frame only, or partial or whole bike. The 53cm OCLV Trek above this one looks nice!

sirpoopalot 04-20-11 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by southpawboston (Post 12262247)
Okay, I've had this frame listed in the frame-swap database for a few weeks, but I thought I'd post here as well, in case many of you aren't checking the database:

I have a circa 1984 Japanese-built Bianchi San Remo sport-touring bike, 57cm ST c-c, 57cm TT c-c

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5129/...433144f2_b.jpg

Full Ishiwata DB tubing throughout with the usual sport-touring braze-ons for the era, 27" wheels, Sakae half-step + granny triple, original touring rack, and almost complete Shimano 105 golden arrow group (RD was replaced).

Will trade as complete bike or frameset only for similar sport-touring bike or frameset, one size smaller (looking for 55-56 cm ST c-c).

Check out earlier posts in this thread: AZORCH and I were one of the first to complete a frame-swap in this thread and the transaction went famously, so you can feel confident that trading with me can only result in happiness :)

ah, so that's who bought that bike.
was the 2nd responder to the cl ad in january.

champion city 04-20-11 08:20 PM

Hi folks,

Looking to trade a Miyata 1000 in great shape for something racier. based to the Shimano component dates, I'd call this one a 1985.

Toptube measures 56cm CTC, seattube is 55cm CTC, and 57cm CTT, and Headtube length is 140mm. It has braze-one for the following: 3 water bottle cages (ST, DT, bottom of DT), Fender bosses on the brake bridge and chainstay bridge, as well as on the dropouts, front and rear. It also has rack mounts, both on the seatstays and dropouts. The fork has double eyelets, as well as lowrider rack mounts. There is a chainslap guard braze-on as well, and a chain peg on the drive-side seatstay. There is also a pump peg on the headtube, and grommeted internal cable routing for lights/dynamo.

It is available for trade with the current parts kit, which is a mix of shimano 600 (6200 series i think), Deer's head Deore, and first-gen cantilevers. The BB has been replaced with a shimano sealed bearing unit, but everything else is original to my knowledge. Wheelset is Ukai 25mm rims, 36h front, 40h rear, laced to Sansin sealed bearing freewheel hubs.

If you'd prefer bare frame & fork, that is also an option.

For a trade, I'm looking for something racy in a 53-54cm CTC square frame, preferably a Merckx. I'd also be very interested in high end Italians. If you have something else interesting, don't hesitate to offer.

It's currently sitting without cables and bar wrap, although I have both ready to mount.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5309/...7ca1667c_z.jpg

Please PM for more photos and/or more information.

dashuaigeh 04-20-11 08:24 PM

woah momma. PM'ed. Very hopeful...


Originally Posted by champion city (Post 12535054)
Hi folks,

Looking to trade a Miyata 1000 in great shape for something racier. based to the Shimano component dates, I'd call this one a 1985.

Toptube measures 56cm CTC, and seattube is 55cm CTC. It has braze-one for the following: 3 water bottle cages (ST, DT, bottom of DT), Fender bosses on the brake bridge and chainstay bridge, as well as on the dropouts, front and rear. It also has rack mounts, both on the seatstays and dropouts. The fork has double eyelets, as well as lowrider rack mounts. There is a chainslap guard braze-on as well, and a chain peg on the drive-side seatstay. There is also a pump peg on the headtube, and grommeted internal cable routing for lights/dynamo.

It is available for trade with the current parts kit, which is a mix of shimano 600 (6200 series i think), Deer's head Deore, and first-gen cantilevers. The BB has been replaced with a shimano sealed bearing unit, but everything else is original to my knowledge. Wheelset is Ukai 25mm rims, 36h front, 40h rear, laced to Sansin sealed bearing freewheel hubs.

If you'd prefer bare frame & fork, that is also an option.

For a trade, I'm looking for something racy in a 53-54cm CTC square frame, preferably a Merckx. I'd also be very interested in high end Italians. If you have something else interesting, don't hesitate to offer.

It's currently sitting without cables and bar wrap, although I have both ready to mount.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5309/...7ca1667c_z.jpg

Please PM for more photos and/or more information.


realestvin7 04-20-11 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by dashuaigeh (Post 12535079)
woah momma. PM'ed. Very hopeful...

Isn't that too tall for you Jesse? ;) Looks to be my size.

dashuaigeh 04-20-11 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by realestvin7 (Post 12535415)
Isn't that too tall for you Jesse? ;) Looks to be my size.

Hey don't tell me that or my good sense may get the better of me. 55 CTC is probably on the larger end for me, but I also realize that I've been drastically undersizing my entire stable for a few years now (I own a 2 53's, a 52, and 2 51.5 bikes, and I think I ride a 54-55).

With that, let me also throw a Schwinn Waterford Paramount into the ring. https://picasaweb.google.com/jchan985/SchwinnParamount. This doesn't fit me either :(. Frame is in worse condition than the Ciocc (had rust on the TT cable guides that is now neutralized, numerous paint chips and scratches).

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_Y...0/IMG_2469.JPG

realestvin7 04-20-11 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by dashuaigeh (Post 12535499)
Hey don't tell me that or my good sense may get the better of me. 55 CTC is probably on the larger end for me, but I also realize that I've been drastically undersizing my entire stable for a few years now (I own a 2 53's, a 52, and 2 51.5 bikes, and I think I ride a 54-55).

With that, let me also throw a Schwinn Waterford Paramount into the ring. https://picasaweb.google.com/jchan985/SchwinnParamount. This doesn't fit me either :(. Frame is in worse condition than the Ciocc (had rust on the TT cable guides that is now neutralized, numerous paint chips and scratches).

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_Y...0/IMG_2469.JPG

What size is that Paramount? You need an Ironman.


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