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Old 03-05-17, 07:35 PM
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Just thought I'd repost two of my Schwinns now that I've made some minor changes.

First is the 87 Circuit. Installed a set of Campagnolo Zonda wheels and some red highlights to the black bar tape. I think the black rims go well with this. Still enough shiny bits to not be boring. Oh and I took it out today for the first time since winter set in. Had to fight 30 mph winds with it but it was still a joy to be back on.

You are killing me with this, jamesdak! Looks great! And I agree, 30 mph (head) winds are soul-suckers, especially on test or first rides where we are trying to feel out anything and any difference from a recent change. I'm trying to iron out a few bugs on my 600 Tri-color-equipped '84 Super Sport and the cold and wind and rain just aren't letting me have it. Glad the Circuit cut through all the mess and had you enjoying your time.
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My prologue





Here's my prologue with dura ace 8 speed.

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Great photos here.
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Originally Posted by rccardr
1987 Schwinn Prologue. Sold as a frameset only, and only for one year. Built under contract to Schwinn by Panasonic using Tange Prestige tubing and Tange dropouts. Typically built up at the LBS based on the customer's selection of components. If I recall correctly, @Scooper once said that it was as good or better than any frame built anywhere in the world in the late 80's.


This is the third- and nicest- one to pass through The Lab. It's 55cm square, so a little smaller than I usually ride, but used a Cinelli 115 stem on the Nitto bars to make up the difference in the top tube. Hoped to use the pictured Shimano 6400 aero seatpost, but it's a bit too short so will be on the lookout for something polishable & appropriate but somewhat longer.


What better to put on a one-year-only frame than a one-year-only groupset? Shimano 1051 7 speed was, to the best of my knowledge, only available in 1989, as tricolor-based 1055 was released in 1990. I just love 1050/1051 for it's utter reliability and simple design, and collected primo 1051 components for several years to put together a really nice group. Replaced the original 52/42 Biopace rings with a 50 tooth FSA and a later Shimano 39.


The hubs are actually rare 1050 6 speed freehub units converted to 7 speed using (you guessed it) a 1055 freehub, axle and cones. Have had those Mavic CXP33's in storage for a while, just waiting for a bright red build to match 'em. Spokes are Sapim DB's. Hope to bring this one to some vintage events around the country in 2017!


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Just ran into your Prologue post here. I was really hoping that a true C&V enthusiast would wind up with the frame! Very nice!!

I bought it as a complete bike off CL from the suburban St. Paul 2nd owner. Apparently he got it from a neighbor who rode it part of a summer, and then it hung in the garage for decades. I knew immediately when I saw it that it was too small for me, but it was so pristine that I couldn't leave it.

Pictured below is the original build. I eventually moved the flawless Shimano 600 tricolor groupset over to my Prologue TT frame. The tricolor/Mavic wheelset went to my daughter-in-law's Peugeot. I still have the original Schwinn "Super Record" 25mm gumwalls if you want them :-)



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Here's the 87 World Sport I picked up a few hours ago. Picture from the ad.
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That is one of my favorite color combos of World Sport. Solid 4130 tubing and the 6-speed Shimano stem shifters make this a bullet-proof rider. Looks like a 24" frame, is it? Cool pick up!
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel
That is one of my favorite color combos of World Sport. Solid 4130 tubing and the 6-speed Shimano stem shifters make this a bullet-proof rider. Looks like a 24" frame, is it? Cool pick up!
Sounds about right, I'm near enough to 6' and it fits me fairly well. No complaints from me on the ride, especially for the price
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Schwinn tempo

I'm looking to buy this Schwinn Tempo I found on CR. Seller asking $260. Looks like a keeper. I'd appreciate any opinions, advice, or suggestions.







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That's a good year for a Tempo. 89 means it should have full Shimano 105 7 speed, which is 1051. Freewheel hub, too. Should also have Cinelli stem, maybe Cinelli bars and saddle.

Looks like it's seen little use based on the brake tracks. Check the brake hoods carefully, as replacement are impossible to find. Price is slightly on the high side, but if it presents in person as well as in pictures, it's worth close to that.
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I picked up an '87 Prelude frame for a great price and used components from an 89 schwinn 564 as well as a couple from my larts bin and a couple new.

Made a compact 48/34 crank out of an old Sakae triple.
The rest of the drivetrain is Shimano Sport LX which has white accents, so perfect for the bike.

Gonna try a few rides, but pretty sure its too small. Lame.



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Looks to be in beautiful condition @mstateglfr
And the dt shifters look great with the white.

Iv been waiting to see one of those with the darker rims.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
I picked up an '87 Prelude frame for a great price and used components from an 89 schwinn 564 as well as a couple from my larts bin and a couple new.

That's a great looking bike. I secretly want a pink Prelude, only to put a bunch of killer fast black components on it--ride it around and revel in the contrast of it all. I want all late '80s mid to high end Schwinns. Bummer that it's a little on the small size. You're 6'8"-6'9"? That's a 25" frame which is perfect for my height at 6'5". At least Schwinn made some decent looking 27"/68.5cm frames in the '80s.
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel
That's a great looking bike. I secretly want a pink Prelude, only to put a bunch of killer fast black components on it--ride it around and revel in the contrast of it all. I want all late '80s mid to high end Schwinns. Bummer that it's a little on the small size. You're 6'8"-6'9"? That's a 25" frame which is perfect for my height at 6'5". At least Schwinn made some decent looking 27"/68.5cm frames in the '80s.
Yeah, Im 6'5 too. Not sure what the deal is with this build though. My varying styles of drop bar bikes are all 63-65cm and this should work on paper. but...
- There is a ton of drop between saddle and stem. More than my other 25" Schwinn(though thats an '80 sports tourer). A whole lotta seatpost is showing.
- I might try a Nitto Dynamic II stem which is a 0degreee quill to get the bars up a little more and make the saddle to stem drop a bit less dramatic. Another option is a quill to threadless conversion, but would like to avoid that if possible.
- Damn quill stem...ill have to unwrap everything and pull a brake lever to change the stem! So sheer laziness may mean I end up riding it as is longer than I should before trying the last ditch option of a Dynamic II stem.

I am going to compare this to my 63cm '87 Miyata 912 to see the geometry differences. The Miyata is on the edge of too small, but Ive made it fit and use it a ton, so ill be interested to see the differences that allow the Miyata to work since its .5cm smaller than this Schwinn.
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It would be a shame it it finally comes out to be too small for your comfort zone. But being a race frame, they should be "on the smaller then your usual size", shouldn't they?

It is a great colour, and the posters suggestion of all black components would be a dynamite combination!
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel
I want all late '80s mid to high end Schwinns.
Sounds like a good plan. I had the same idea for awhile but realized it wasn't practical for me. I'm currently mulling the idea of taking my '86 Tempo and dressing it up in '88 Tempo colors: Flame/White/Green...
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Yeah, Im 6'5 too. Not sure what the deal is with this build though. My varying styles of drop bar bikes are all 63-65cm and this should work on paper. but...
- There is a ton of drop between saddle and stem. More than my other 25" Schwinn(though thats an '80 sports tourer). A whole lotta seatpost is showing.
- I might try a Nitto Dynamic II stem which is a 0degreee quill to get the bars up a little more and make the saddle to stem drop a bit less dramatic. Another option is a quill to threadless conversion, but would like to avoid that if possible.
- Damn quill stem...ill have to unwrap everything and pull a brake lever to change the stem! So sheer laziness may mean I end up riding it as is longer than I should before trying the last ditch option of a Dynamic II stem.

I am going to compare this to my 63cm '87 Miyata 912 to see the geometry differences. The Miyata is on the edge of too small, but Ive made it fit and use it a ton, so ill be interested to see the differences that allow the Miyata to work since its .5cm smaller than this Schwinn.
Interesting. My inseam is around 34-35", so your legs are certainly higher in proportion to your overall height. Trek and Raleigh make 25.5"/65cm production frames that often look proportionally correct, though the Treks may give you more BB drop, which is key for us tall guys. Two of my tall frames have BB drops right around 60mm instead of at or more than 70mm.

Those Soma Highway One bars look great (I have one myself) and you did a great wrap job--I feel your pain of having to undo it all to switch things out--especially after getting a taste of threadless stem and bar setups.

Those cranks are probably 170mm, if typical '80s cranks are to go by. The Prelude's BB drop should be about 70-73mm, pretty standard, especially with modern bikes, but running a 175mm or even 180mm crankset can help put you lower as your bottom dead center pedaling point/foot is lower. And maybe your other Schwinn has a lower BB drop than this, which would explain it fitting better.
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Originally Posted by tyler_fred
Sounds like a good plan. I had the same idea for awhile but realized it wasn't practical for me. I'm currently mulling the idea of taking my '86 Tempo and dressing it up in '88 Tempo colors: Flame/White/Green...
Haha, yeah, it's a great plan and yet indeed impractical, I will admit. Bummer. At least dreaming is free and doesn't take up space!
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Hey Doc,
I bought the 89 Schwinn Tempo for $220. Good condition though my main concern is that when you back pedal and turn the cassette backward, it hangs up causing the chain to dip towards the chainstay. I talked with a mechanic at a local shop and he said those 1051 freehubs are not serviceable but that he might try to heat it up and then clean it with solvent, then replace the old grease with some heavy oil. The bike rides fine and shifts nicely. BTW it does have a Cinelli Stem and bars. The saddle is "Concor." I also like that it has index shifters.
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I went to a thrift store and found a Schwinn world sport all intact with new tires. 56cm just my size. It was nicked pretty bad. But they only wanted 20 bucks. I figured the tires alone was worth the 20 bucks. I stripped it, sanded it, painted it. took the drops and brake levers from my donor bike and updated it, and added a more comfortable seat. Pics coming soon..
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89 Tempo

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That's a good year for a Tempo. 89 means it should have full Shimano 105 7 speed, which is 1051. Freewheel hub, too. Should also have Cinelli stem, maybe Cinelli bars and saddle.

Looks like it's seen little use based on the brake tracks. Check the brake hoods carefully, as replacement are impossible to find. Price is slightly on the high side, but if it presents in person as well as in pictures, it's worth close to that.
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The Tempo rides really smooth and fast. I love the wheels and how it shifts. Concor saddle is comfortable. Needs a tune-up and different peddles. The fact that the rear hub/cassette doesn't spin backwards is not that big of an issue as far as I can tell. I don't undestand fullly the freewheel hub concept as it compares to a modern road bike system such as the one on my 2013 Pinnarello FP Quattro. I'm happy with the bike.
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Hmmm. Should be a freehub, not a freewheel, and I'd be concerned if it drags.

It's the older UG variety, narrower than later 8-9-10 speed versions. Smallest cog is threaded and holds the rest of them on the freehub. Once the cogs are removed, take out the axle and bearings so that the freehub can be removed using a large allen wrench (10mm? 12mm?). Then the freehub can be serviced by dipping in solvent and spinning by hand until it's free, then relubing with Triflow or Mobil 1. The narrow space on the back side of the freehub gives you some access to the bearings.

If the freehub still drags, let me know, I think I still have a good 7 speed one in my parts bin.
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The bike rides nice and if I stop pedaling everything is fine, but when I back pedal, the chain will dip and touch chainstay. I'll get to work and see if I can fix it. Can't send pics right now.
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1988 LeTour

I found this a couple weeks ago at a local flea market. It has all the original equipment, and judging by the grease and condition of the tires, it had been serviced in the past ten years. I went through it, top to bottom and replaced the cables, bar wrap, chain, and put on a set of used Paselas. Yesterday, I took it out for the first time, and did 25 miles. Sun Tour Accu-shift worked perfectly. It easily handled a few miles of rough chip & seal. I plan to replace the saddle and maybe put on a taller stem, but that's about all.
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89 Schwinn Tempo

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Hmmm. Should be a freehub, not a freewheel, and I'd be concerned if it drags.

It's the older UG variety, narrower than later 8-9-10 speed versions. Smallest cog is threaded and holds the rest of them on the freehub. Once the cogs are removed, take out the axle and bearings so that the freehub can be removed using a large allen wrench (10mm? 12mm?). Then the freehub can be serviced by dipping in solvent and spinning by hand until it's free, then relubing with Triflow or Mobil 1. The narrow space on the back side of the freehub gives you some access to the bearings.

If the freehub still drags, let me know, I think I still have a good 7 speed one in my parts bin.
I took the bike to my LBS and told the mechanic to service the freehub exactly as you stated above. He fixed it and said it just needed to be serviced and that now it's in good shape. I put some Shimano pedals and Specialized bottle cages on her. I think it's ready to roll now.



Also, another added plus on the 89 Tempo is that it came with 700 cc wheels rather than 27 inch wheels!

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This has been posted elsewhere but I guess I can put it here too.

This is the 1987 Waterford built Paramount I got to go along with my 87 Circuit and Prologue. It had a factory repaint done to it and then upgraded to Dura Ace 9-speed along with adding a C.F. fork and C.F. bars. All this by a previous owner. I'm still sorting it out but today's 50 miler on it was really nice. I swapped on my handbuilt Zen Cyclery wheels and got the weight done to 19 lbs 7 ozs.

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