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Old 01-20-11, 04:44 PM   #1
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Peugeot PX10, type E

I purchased this "Professional Competition Racer" in 1973 for $250. Reynolds 531 double butted, chrome fork tips and crown and rear stays, Nervex professional lugs, Simplex ends, Stronglight competition headset, Simplex Prestige 637 Luxe derailleur, Atom competition freewheel, Stonglight No 93 dural crankset, Sedis chain, Mavic Montlhery rims with Hutchinson sew-up tublars, Normandy Luxe Competition alloy with Simplex quick release hubs, Mafac Racer brakes, AVA dural handlebar and stem, Lyotard No 45CA with Christophe toe clips and Lapize straps, Brooks Professional saddle and Simplex post. So, I used this bike like crazy after I purchased it, and now want to gut it and replace all components, including adding clincher rims. Should I?
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If you want to, you should.
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Why not. You could just keep all the original components/parts in case it is ever desired to put it back to original specs.
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Old 01-20-11, 05:01 PM   #4
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Just be aware that a lot of more modern components won't fit easily, since you're most likely dealing with Simplex dropouts, French threads and French tubing diameters. So derailleurs, stems and seatposts in particular will be problematic. That said, there aren't many other bikes that ride as nicely as an old PX10.

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Dumb question but why gut it, I'd vote to restore it to original since it's all there to begin with.

Should be a fantastic bike with a little effort.
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I'm not going to offer anything, NOTHING!, until you post a picture of the bike.
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If there's anything worn, replace with the same spec as original. Mafac Racers are excellent brakes when set right, and parts are dirt cheap. Stronglight 93's are great cranksets; rings are available (and you'll have to buy a special puller to remove them). You might want to replace the plastic Simplex derailers with aluminum Simplex; that way you'll have no problem with FD mounting clamp size or the Simplex hanger at the back. I recommend the Simplex SX-610 drop parallelogram RD as a non-period, but spiffy upgrade that will improve shifting.

Clincher rims? Not a bad idea. You can probably get a set of used, period clincher wheels out there with a 120mm rear hub without much effort. Look for hooked-bead rims.

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Old 01-20-11, 05:30 PM   #8
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That's what I did with my '74. I made it so perfect that I don't want to ride it.
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Do the clinchers and hang the tubeys on the wall for when you feel the urge.
+1 to retaining all of the original components, though you might want to fit the SX-610 RD as suggested by Kurt. - Everything else is perfectly suited for this bike, and bikes don't come much better than these PX10's.


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That's what I did with my '74. I made it so perfect that I don't want to ride it.
Don'tcha just hate that! My PX10 hangs on the wall, most of the time, and it no where near perfect, but it is pretty darn nice...


And, to the OP, it would, indeed, be nice to see pictures of your project, starting now and through to the end.
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Great looking PX10! Lust
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Don'tcha just hate that! My PX10 hangs on the wall, most of the time, and it no where near perfect, but it is pretty darn nice...


And, to the OP, it would, indeed, be nice to see pictures of your project, starting now and through to the end.
Oh man I need to find a PX-10.
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Repair and overhaul, replace parts as required. Trying to modernize it, especially with the French sizes, would be difficult and expensive. It's a much-loved bike and worth more as is
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Clean and adjust everything and spend the money on some great tubular tires. The ride will be worth it.
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FIX 'ER UP! We sure aren't riding them today up here in the deep freeze.



(Dooh!... got to finish touching up those lugs! And thanks miamijim for the fantastic SLJ RD!)
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Oh yeah, Baby! That's a nice looking bike.

Tell me more about the rear derailleur. I was somewhat surprised by the recommendation made above for a slanted derailleur or anything other than YOUR derailleur type. How does it shift? Is it durably built?
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Seeing that component list gave me flashbacks to my bro's bike from back in the day.

Save all the stuff and put it back when you are done?
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Mike: Just mounted the Simplex Super LJ 5000 and it may be a while before I ride it (for obvious reasons). Shifts great on the stand!

I've "upgraded" both front and rear because in typical fashion the original front (Delrin Prestige) cracked at the clamp pivot. Originals have been cleaned, lubed, and packed away.



My experience with the SX610 RD has been OK... liked the one on the early 80s PBN-10 I prepped for my daughter-in-law but it had exceptionally low miles and I only rode for an hour or so. May be a lower-cost alternative if rogerwayne wants to get his PX-10 going again. I think a SX610 front/rear/dt shifter set went for around $50 recently on eBay.
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Simplex SX610. I like them a lot. I have them on two of my bikes. At one time, I had collected eight of them. I think of them as a lower cost altenative to the SLJ 6000 below. The SX610 weighs about 30 grams more, but shifts just as well. I've never used a RD that shifts better on a 14X28. Both should have their crack-prone pulleys replaced. Those are dark gray Bullseyes on the SLJ.




Don't buy a Simlex derailer that has a claw if you plan to use it without the claw. Mounting on a hanger requires some different hardware.

You need a FD with a housing stop for a PX10. My favorite is the Simplex SJA 102.



Here's my '74 PX10LE. I bought it new. The Le had plain lugs and Maillard 700 hubs, unlike your E with fancy Nervex lugs and Normandy hubs.


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I hope BlueDevil63 chimes in here with his stunning black one. Beautiful bikes fellas. My first bike in '71. White. Thanks for the fond memories.
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I hope BlueDevil63 chimes in here with his stunning black one. Beautiful bikes fellas. My first bike in '71. White. Thanks for the fond memories.
Its almost ready! If that rear cable hanger would just arrive! Pictures soon.
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Finished. Inverse color '70 PX10E. Restoration/repaint.

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I like the idea of using the Simplex derailleurs, Stronglight cranks and Mafac brakes on the Peugeot PX10. It keeps it "French". I guess I do not know for sure that Mafac brakes are French. Are they made in France?

Campagnolo is too strongly identified in my mind as Italian.
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I like the idea of using the Simplex derailleurs, Stronglight cranks and Mafac brakes on the Peugeot PX10. It keeps it "French". I guess I do not know for sure that Mafac brakes are French. Are they made in France?

Campagnolo is too strongly identified in my mind as Italian.
Oui oui. Mafac is very French.
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