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Old 01-21-11, 11:19 PM   #1
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Peugoet- Please help with information

http://i813.photobucket.com/albums/z.../012011077.jpg
http://images.craigslist.org/3n03md3...adb82b1ed9.jpg

I have a couple of bikes I am looking at and I would like to get some input from those that may know more about Peogoets. What are these two bikes and which one would you recommend for a rebuild.

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How much is the yellow one? It's higher on the performance tier.
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The first one. It is minus Turkey levers, and has downtube shifters. However, You will probably want to 86 the steel wheels for aluminum.
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The yellow bike, He is asking $200 but I think he will take $150. The red bike, he will sell for $120
What are these bikes?
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The red bike looks like a touring bike with those fenders??? What do you think?
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Neither are worth that to me. But I tend to have a thing against French bikes. I guess all the Frenchies went to bed early tonight.
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check the website out for more info

The yellow looks like an early to mid 70's Peugeot UO8 and the second one is a Peugeot UE8 which included lights, rack, fenders, and a few other small differences.
If the bike has the original simplex derailleurs (can't see the drivetrain in the pic), inspect the plastic parts because they are notorious for cracking. Not sure of your plans but make sure the hubs and bottom bracket are in good condition. They could be costly to replace and 150 -175 would be the most I would pay for the yellow bike if it was in top working condition (of course - the value differs depending on location and buyer; some people love french bikes and some don't).
If your interest is a rebuild then consider that these french bikes have their own sizes in hubs, bottom brackets etc. so parts aren't as available compared to others and can cost more.
However, It would be a great learning experience if you have never worked with french bikes before.


Try this website from a local member whose name I can't remember:
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yellow for 150 alex
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Try this website from a local member whose name I can't remember:
http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpe...troduction.htm[/QUOTE]

Thanks, that was good reading. I made sure to tag that web sight for future reading.
The yellow UO8 does look like it is all original equipment and the wheels do look to have a pattern on them. Very interesting bike for sure.

If there is any other insights out there about these bikes then please chime in.
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Patterned rims may look cool, but they are heavy and really crappy. UO8s can be upgraded into decent bikes, and the first upgrade is better wheels. $150 is on the high side for a UO8 lacking upgrades, but it appears to be in really good shape. So I would be tempted at that price.

Read up on french threading, as you will be entering that world.
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They are about equal in ride quality; the UO-8 has an original pump (which can be hard to find) and is older (somewhere close to 74), the UE-8 has the fenders which are very nice. To me the biggest factor is size: the UO-8 looks to be a 23"+ size, while the UE-8 looks to be a 21" or smaller. Buy the one that fits!

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Patterned rims may look cool, but they are heavy and really crappy. UO8s can be upgraded into decent bikes, and the first upgrade is better wheels. $150 is on the high side for a UO8 lacking upgrades, but it appears to be in really good shape. So I would be tempted at that price.

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Agreed. Assuming it fits, offer a hundred (or less). Cash in hand. If not, walk away.

They're fine riders, but they have issues. Upgrades are difficult (though not impossible). The best part of that bike is the frame; while materials are nothing to write home about, they do have a very nice ride.

I like mine a lot, but I have seriously upgraded it over the years and it was 5$ when I bought it. It now has handbuilt wheels, replaced crank and bottom bracket, fenders, new pedals.

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I think the red bike is a '79 UO8 with the possibilty of it being a European model due to the fenders and rack and it eally looks like the fork is bent.

To be honest, I wouldnt buy either one.
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Here is another bike that just came up. Any ideas as to what it could be? It has a chromed fork which looks out of place

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OP's pics. Definitely two different size bikes.



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+1 on the frame, it is the best part of the bike. The rims, as stated above have a texture on them to supposedly make it brake better. If you insist on keeping them, try different brake pads. I bought some Serfas road pads that have three colors on them, black/gray/orange and I put them on steel rims and that change alone increased braking efficiency dramatically. I've heard good things about Swissstops also, but I don't have personal experience.

I agree that the bikes are different sizes. If you are 5'10" or above, go for the yellow one, I'd say. Looks to be around 57 cm. The paint on Peugeots was frequently not up to par with the rest of the build, so the fact that this one seems to have a nice paintjob is a big plus.

Personally, I would max out on the yellow one at around $120 to $125 and justify it because of the wheels and the potential hassles with French threading.
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The yellow UO-8 looks really good to me. If the saddle isnt dry and cracked, thats a $50 item right there. Those frame pumps really hard to find and also bring a premium price. Above all that the UO-8 is one of the nicest riding bikes you are going to find. I rode a UO-8 with the stock steel wheels. Alloy rims are better all around but the steel are fine. If you could get it for $150 you would have a very nice classic.
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I agree that the yellow bike is bigger then the 55cm the seller claims it to be. I was interested in the red bike because it looks cool with the fenders and the generator and head and tail light. I do understand that parts are hard to come by but I am a patient man and I enjoy the hunt for the piece of the puzzle that is missing. The owner of the red bike claims that it is 56cm but it does not look like it to me.
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Here is another bike that just came up. Any ideas as to what it could be? It has a chromed fork which looks out of place

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Does anyone know about this Peugeot?
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Does anyone know about this Peugeot?
How about a picture of the entire bike? Low end P6, maybe P8, early 1980s. Read up on Swiss threading, the early 1980s, Peugeot transitioned from French threading to Swiss. Finding swiss parts is more challenging than French.

If you are looking for Peugeots in particular, I would recommend you spend some time studying at Miamijim's Peugeot website.

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^ This looks to me like it may be an early 80's U09 with the checkers and the stem shifters.
It's not a high end model, so the all-chromed fork looks to be a replacement - an indication that it was crashed so be wary of other damage.

The other two bikes, the U08 and UE8, are both reasonably priced at 150 and 120 respectively. (I lean toward the yellow one myself.)

btw - What sort of A "rebuild" are you thinking about?
The best one is simply replacing the steel rims with some decent alloy hoops, as Thrifty Bill mentioned.

It is a moot point whether replacing the French/Swiss bb and crank with later Japanese items is an "upgrade" at all: Steel rings last forever, and alloy cranks really do not improve performance. I might argue too that it compromises the original aesthetic. Likewise adding cogs won't make you a better rider.

IMO it's best to appreciate these bikes for what they are - and they ARE fine riders as you will come to know if you do snag one.
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When I say rebuild I only mean to tear it down, repack the bearings, polish the bike and shiney up the parts.

Thanks for your input

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